Bob Curtain made some valid points {a bit too 4 letter'ish} but {yes there
is a but} is this the beginning of "FACT or OPINION Infomercial 101"??
Just curious.. "O" I prefer "Subjective Opinion" not that it'll get you a
free
cup of "Jo" anywhere. Anyway Keep Smilin' Folks It Won't Hurt Ya.;0)
Cheers Thom_j.
> > I've noticed a phenomenon on R.A.S...etc. etc...
> > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green,
> > baggy skin"
> --
> Rob Swindells
> 3rd equal in Goldline Bearings FFord Championship (29 Points);
> ONE point behind Championship Leader (as of round 5 of 6)
> "If you're a great driver, you will get through. It's not harder than any
> time before." ~Martin Brundle
> "Winning, that you can't know, 'fighting' ...that I know..." ~Jacques
> Villeneuve pre'96
I just said myself recently that r.a.s. is one of the only places in the
world that N3 could get a beating for not being realistic enough.
jeff
I bought NASCAR 3, only because my friend was going to buy it... I didn't
really want to, but I HAD NO CHOICE if I want to continue racing Nascar
against him. It is possible to allow Nascar 3 owners to race against Nascar
99 owners, Papyrus just didn't want to work 'too hard'.
ARGH!! I hate defenders of computer games!!
[snip]
Oh, you so TOTALLY lost me right there, and also shot your credibility
right in the ass to boot.
Until Viper and GPL came out, SODA was the most realistic PC vehicle
simulator out. It did most of the things GPL did 2 years before, when
a high spec box was a Pentium 200, and the average was a 133.
If you're saying it sucked because it was too hard for you (not
uncommon, just like GPL) that's one thing, but it definitely didn't
suck.
You might have also forgot that it was sort of a sub-contracted game.
Software Allies made it, Papyrus labeled it, and Sierra published it.
It wasn't an in-house Papyrus product.
The worst thing about SODA was the poor 3D support. Rendition only, at
a time when the Voodoo 1 was the hottest thing going.
A 3Dfx patch was promised, but Sierra ix-nayed it before completion.
I hated them for it. I would jump at another Papyrus off-road sim.
This rationale is so wacky, I hardly know where to begin.
First and foremost, they have to design for the typical machine in the
home. You think thats the P3-500 with 256 meg of RAM and latest 3D
card which they're using for development?
No, it's probably a P2/266 with some bullshit original 4 meg Riva
card, or a $1000 K6/2 300 from Best Buy with God-knows-what kind of
video built onto a half-ass motherboard.
They COULD make N3 with the GPL engine work on their development
boxes. They're pro's, and a pro anything, from a landscaper, to a
mechanic, to a programmer uses the BEST equipment they can get for
their field.
N3 with the GPL engine would probably work pretty damn well on most of
the PC's of the people reading this newsgroup (at least if they were
willing to settle for 25 cars instead of 43, which would be fine with
me). That's not the target they had to hit though.
You say you're in the software industry, but you don't grasp that?
Are you a cashier at EB?
Tim
Newsgroups are newsgroups! I read 2% of it and ignore the rest because I
know it's not worth my time.
Maybe Papyrus needs to adopt a different marketing strategy. Rather than
getting complaints from the masses that the "game" is too difficult, they
should direct market the real sims off the web. If they charged $150US for
GPL, I still would have thought I got a deal. Avoid all of Sierra's mass
marketing connections, and their slice of the profits, and maybe there is
money in high end racing simulations. I think X-plane goes for about that,
and they seem to be staying around.
We've got a bunch of fairly serious sim racers, most who have spent $200 to
$2000 on a controller, probably another grand on computer upgrades, and the
software that makes this all worth it is $40US? That doesn't seem right to
me.
I think all companies that go the hard route of following their passion,
rather than the dollars, struggle financially from time to time. Certainly
Ferrari has, and Lotus and Apple, and the thousands of other small business
that do it, at least in good measure, because they love it. They will likely
never rule the world like GM or Microsoft, but that was never their goal.
Kevin
Wishing I had the courage to follow mine...
It would be interesting to have seen how many people would have bought N3 if
Papyrus had made a demo available a month ago.
BK
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