rec.autos.simulators

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Mon, 07 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Don't know what you are on about! Why don't you refer to my reply earlier (4
June) about how easily I backed up the European version of GPL?
Keep an eye on the thread!
Iain

by **Tim Wheatle** » Mon, 07 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Hmmm..... I'm from Europe, had I not installed the game crack, I would need
my CD to play GPL.... Okay Monday morning I get up to find my CD has been
eaten by my dog, I send to Sierra UK for another CD, lets say 2 days
postage.... ok, Sierra recieve my enquiry, and put it in a little tray
marked "To Do." It sits there, for between 2 days, to a month, however long
Sierra see fit. Ok so now Sierra organise something, something needs to be
sent to stores, and sent back, then stores despatch my CD.....

Two days postage....

HOW LONG MUST I LIVE WITHOUT GPL???

Jeez man, give it up, if he ain't selling it, what the hell does it matter?
MY GOD!!! I know for one that living with no GPL is no fit life for a man.
Besides.... If he makes his own copy, Sierra won't need to spend the money
on the CD, hence - they make n3 *HINT HINT HINT - to papy*

Cheers!

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> What is an "average consumer" and why should this person be treated any
> differently to any other type of consumer?

> We do have the right to create one backup copy of any software that we
> purchase. If the copy protection that is being used now by Sierra (an
> others) prevents this then Sierra (and others) should include in their
fine
> print words to the effect that they will supply us with a replacement CD
at
> no cost to us in the event that the purchased item fails for ANY
> reason....and that includes being chewed by the dog.

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> Bruce.
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> >The thing you're doing that is completely wrong is trying to copy a
> >commercial CD-ROM. Despite all the excuses given, I think that if
> >CD-ROMs are stored and handled properly there is NO reason for an
> >average consumer to make 'safety copies'.

by **Zonk** » Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>Whether or not it is legal to make a copy for the purpose described depends
>upon the individual license agreement for the software in question. Some
>are so specific to state that you must use the copy as the backup, and work
>from the original. In many cases it was illegal to copy diskettes for
>backup purposes too (from experience). Sometimes the license is worded to
>disallow backup and require you to repurchase software if original disks are
>damaged (Novell was once worded this way, for instance).

Excuse me, but no license agreement can take away a right under law which is
protected (at least in the UK) to make one backup of any computer software,
which may only be installed on one machine at a time.

Z.

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Err.....Tim...if you re-read what I posted you'll see that I *AGREE* that we
are legally allowed to copy!!

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>Jeez man, give it up, if he ain't selling it, what the hell does it matter?

by **EXCHANGE:HAL02:HQ** » Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:00:00

> We do have the right to create one backup copy of any software that we
> purchase. If the copy protection that is being used now by Sierra (an
> others) prevents this then Sierra (and others) should include in their fine
> print words to the effect that they will supply us with a replacement CD at
> no cost to us in the event that the purchased item fails for ANY
> reason....and that includes being chewed by the dog.

It would be helpful if they did this. A friend of mine could not get his
Colin McRae Rally to work after a while because of the CD scratches, and
Codemasters (the publisher) would NOT replace it even for a nominal
charge.

They told him to take it back to the retailer! Thats really going to
make him think twice about buying their games in future.

Incidently, the GPL copy protection is such that I cannot install it
either from the CD recorder on my main machine, nor from a CD drive on a
networked machine. This I need to do if my CD drive on my main machine
stops working (which it seems to do occasionally).

Paul.

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Wed, 09 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I can totally appreciate Sierra (and others, of course) wishing to protect
their considerable investment in preventing the unauthorised and illegal
distribution of software pirated from their products.

However, I cannot subscribe to a "Catch 22" situation being in place which
allows us to make a backup, and even install from it, but not play the game
with it!

I suppose that the only way around this is to "ghost" your game directory to
a Gold CD as soon as you've installed it. . Okay...that saves the data
being lost if the dog chomps the CD but it still doesn't get around having
to insert the original in order to play the game.

Unless you've run a crack that does away with the need to insert the CD.

Which brings us back to where we started!! :o)

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by **Terry Kan** » Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Re cd copy or no cd patch, I have a AMD K6-2 333 & it will not run F1RS it
just sits there, If I use the no cd patch it works ok, when I had a intel
cpu in the same motherboard it ran from the cd ok, why? I emailed both
UBISOFT & AMD no response as yet. No other changes were made, I runs on my
P166mmx ok but not the AMD.

> Err.....Tim...if you re-read what I posted you'll see that I *AGREE* that
we
> are legally allowed to copy!!

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> Bruce.
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> >Jeez man, give it up, if he ain't selling it, what the hell does it
matter?

by **Eldre** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>Yes your doing something completely wrong. Copying is illegal.

>> Can anyone explain to me why I can't copy the GPL cd-rom? Even using a
>700
>> MB disk does not seem to solve the problem!

>> Any suggestions or am I doing something completely wrong?

No, copying is NOT illegal. Copying to give to someone ELSE is illegal.
There's a (slight) difference... :)
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by **Larr** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

There is a form of copy protection that renders CD's uncopyable.

However, I have heard that Nero is capable of copying some discs that
ECDCD can't copy.

Might be worth it to download the demo and try it.

-Larry

by **Larr** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Watch out for the really cheap '50 or 100 on a spindle' CDR blanks.
Some of that stuff is getting pretty ***.

Personally, I think the new 1X2X4X6X8X TDK's are the cat's meow...

-Larry

> Well if you buy CDs in bulk then you can get them for about $1 a CD so its
> not really a big deal and less the hassle of having to transfer all the data
> back on to your hard drive, etc...

by **Larr** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

It's also handy to compile more than one game on one play CD. Less CD's
to mess with.

I can put the original's back in the box up on the shelf and not have to
worry about them getting damaged...

-Larry

by **Larr** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Can you explain what Overburning is? I don't seem to recall that one :)

Thanks!

-Larry

> As a backup copy - honestly, please don't start flaming me - I copied the
> European version of my GPL with no trouble at all. I used Yamaha 4416S and
> NERO 4.0.3 overburning onto a standard 74min CDR.

by J » Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Lemmings 4

UUPPS - Wrong group ;-)

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by J » Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Same for Europe, as far as I know

Jens

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by **Mark C Dod** » Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Good spelling in my last message.....must of been the large amount of port I
consumed prior to logging in.....

> There is a form of copy protection that renders CD's uncopyable.

> However, I have heard that Nero is capable of copying some discs that
> ECDCD can't copy.

> Might be worth it to download the demo and try it.

> -Larry

> > P.S.......this didn't help when my duaghter's Barbir game couldn't be
> > copied no matter which siftware I tried. Of course she ended up scrathing
> > the orginal!

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