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Ice D
> > http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/racefx1.htm
> Interesting idea, sim-racing alongside the real-life drivers during a live
> race. I just don't see how my car could be anything other than a ghost car
> though, since things would go astray if you could actually interact with
the
> other cars. Besides, I'd hate to be the one to ruin an otherwise good race
> weekend :-)
> Ice D
Continuing the idea a bit further, it would be a great tool for online and
offline racers if they're able to see how the pro's do things. Converting
sh*t like braking point info to a title like NR2003 would be a breeze (as in
you'd watch the pro, then shoot for the same objective in your game later
on). What you could learn to do and not do is a mind boggling thought.
Unfortunately, since it's a cool idea....it'll never happen as I envision
it. And, yup, I still have hurt feelings about no PC release for Dirt to
Daytona. ;-)
Will - "A man of cool ideas, but no capital."
> > http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/racefx1.htm
> Interesting idea, sim-racing alongside the real-life drivers during a live
> race. I just don't see how my car could be anything other than a ghost car
> though, since things would go astray if you could actually interact with
the
> other cars. Besides, I'd hate to be the one to ruin an otherwise good race
> weekend :-)
Ice D
> > > http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/racefx1.htm
> > Interesting idea, sim-racing alongside the real-life drivers during a
live
> > race. I just don't see how my car could be anything other than a ghost
car
> > though, since things would go astray if you could actually interact with
> the
> > other cars. Besides, I'd hate to be the one to ruin an otherwise good
race
> > weekend :-)
> Why a "live race " ? A recorded race would have the potential for more
> interactive participation.
Doug
I thought the whole idea was to take advantage of the "recorded" race data
, not the actual footage, and use that to alter the AI, car positions and
speed etc.
For sure it'll come, but after Bernie is dead...and the cost will
be....expensive, but then it will be fun to punt out MS at the start, and
DGF can punt JPM....everybody's happy....
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> > How? The recorded cars dont know you're there. You cant 'race' them as
> > they're recorded - not AI.
> I thought the whole idea was to take advantage of the "recorded" race data
> , not the actual footage, and use that to alter the AI, car positions and
> speed etc.
Just my $0.02.
-- JB
I've still been saying dozen of times in this NG that streaming real-time
(or delayed) feed of Nascar races on the simulators so we can watch them
from any angle _HAS_ much more potential for anybody who thinks a little
business-wise.
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The whole idea is just plain stupid......anyone thinking otherwise just
hasn't "thought it through."
There is some business potential for taking the individual car data from a
real (NASCAR or any other series) race and packaging it into an "AI" data
flow (something similar to the recorded AI data of a race replay...that we
can have/save now in an offline race against the AI)......and then allow
that "package" to be downloaded and installed in your racing sim. That way,
you could race offline against AI cars whose race performance matched the
original (real) race. Your interaction and participation of course, would
very likely change the outcome of the "historic" real race......but you'd
least be participating it in as often as you liked. Even with this.....the
"desirability" would be limited....so the "price" of downloading a
historical AI data race.....would have to be quite low. That would put a
strain on the revenue model......so I doubt this will happen any time soon.
Maybe, when's there's several million of us in the *** sim racing
community, it might be feasible.....who knows?
The "Net Race Live" experiment proved us to be right about this.......so
there's no arguments to the contrary that holds water, IMHO.
Regards,
Tom
> That's pure ***. I've said it like dozens of times in the past
half-decade
> on this newsgroup, and it was proved with that IRL ***thing called
> "InternetRacingLive" or something similar. It totally bombed because it's
> useless. You are racing either against ghosts, or AI that act like you
> didn't exist. It doesn't work offline (nobody likes AI that doesn't know
> you're there) so it won't work online.
> I've still been saying dozen of times in this NG that streaming real-time
> (or delayed) feed of Nascar races on the simulators so we can watch them
> from any angle _HAS_ much more potential for anybody who thinks a little
> business-wise.
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> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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> Corporation - helping America into the New World...
There are still people working on it though. More than 1 party I know
of.
Perhaps also it would be a small idea to use hotlaps/qualifying laps
to *train* the AI, different for each driver. So mimicking real-life
driver driving lines. Ofcourse, it's just a detail and perhaps more
trouble than value.
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> I've still been saying dozen of times in this NG that streaming real-time
> (or delayed) feed of Nascar races on the simulators so we can watch them
> from any angle _HAS_ much more potential for anybody who thinks a little
> business-wise.
It would be possible use this technology to create an applet/viewer
whereby you would be able to check out the view from any given virtual
seat. The view should be able to pan about, and zoom in and out. You
would then be able to decide if a seat in section x is indeed worth
$15 more dollars than a seat in section y. Or if half of your view
will be blocked by a support pillar (like mine was at Bristol one
year), etc.
You might be able to sell this to various speedways for use on their
ticket sales sites. The Georgia Dome's site has something similar,
but IIRC it is a static view.
Gerald