> It's just the opposite here in Europe :))) It's almost impossible to see
Nascar
> or Cart race here. Eurosport shows only about 10 races in a year. All you
Excuse me? AFAIK Eurosport airs all CART races, most of them live. Nascar?
Don't much care for ...
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The Mocker
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Granted the technology and the drivers' salaries are superior in F1, but
sadly the actual racing often isn't. NASCAR of course is generally in the
1960's technology wise (albeit a little more advanced in the areas of
aerodynamics and dampers). Given this, if there are enough properly placed
caution periods at a track with more than one racing groove, NASCAR can put
on a good show/race. CART rides the middle ground in that it has a fairly
high level of technology and rules that generate close racing (full course
yellows).
Maybe the reason that F1 isn't very big in the USA is that there are no
American teams or drivers. What would happen if Penske/Gurney/Matsushita put
an American F1 team together with drivers like Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon?
Americans might actually watch F1 just to see how "their" team is doing.
Here in Canada, F1 is popular due to the presence of Jacques Villeneuve, but
even if he wasn't there, the memory of his father Gilles Villeneuve would
keep most people tuning in every 2 weeks.
Wayne Hutchison
> David G Fisher
> > Hi,
> > Reading all of these posts debating NASCAR/F1, I realized how lucky
I
> > am to live here in Canada! Up here we get all of the F1/CART races and
a
> > vast majority (if not all) of the NASCAR races!
That's what I thought you were doing. It was subtle.
That's just SUCH utter bullsh*t. Have you even begun to consider the
differences between the actual vehicles being driven??? What do CART, IRL
and F1 cars have in common? Very stiff suspensions, very high downforce . .
. I'll leave it to some more technically-inclined RAS'er to educate you on
this, but even I saw a serious hole in your knee-jerk reaction.
A hole as big as the sun is hot.
[snip]
mocked.
--DK
I remember that ;-)
Btw, there is really School bus racing in the US on those short tracks.
Well up here we have Ski-doo oval racing (Gilles Villeneuve was the best
driver for that ever), so we aren't really better than down there ;)
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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
He's a Villeneuve, like his Father. He can't accept to go slower. For him
it's always at the limit, whatever car he drives. That's why he was mad to
finish the Spa race. He would had prefered to push the car to the limit all
race long and not finish than to what he did, lift a little so that they
could finish back in 15th. He was really mad btw in interviews after the
race :) .
He's the only F1 driver who doesn't lift in Eau Rouge these days IIRC. His
father would be proud.
Hehe, he's a Qubecer ;-)
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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
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Canada???? Try California!! Only thing we don't have is ice
racing!!! We consider that a plus....but you opinion may vary!
buzard
Chris
Ok i take that back...i did see him on the podium when i watched the race in
replay. Guess i got caught on that one <g>
Chris
<snip>
Good point!
I remember the swap when they put Colin McRae in a Jordan F1 and Martin Brundle in
a rally car, they both were fast in the "wrong" cars, but Mr. Brundle had trouble
keeping the car the right side up...:)
IMO, the rally drivers are the ones who'll adapt to other race cars the best, I
mean, they are probably the craziest people on the earth anyway....!
:-)
Matt
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I think Coulthard was supposed to help Hakkinen in getting the WC. So,
he was expected to let Mika gain the greatest advantage on Irvine, 5
points instead of 1, especially because on Sunday it was supposed that
Schumacher would have come back in Monza. Now the situation is quite
different and Irvine has very small chances to win the championship.
Anyway, it was the same reason for Salo let Irvine pass him.
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In any case... MS isn't coming back for at least another month.
M
Only when he has no chance of winning the WC himself - last Sunday
(and now) he still has a chance and has the full support of the team
to race Hakkinen.
Not true - he was supposed to go and try to win the rac.
Cheers!
John
A proposition isn't valid simply because you make it - to say that F1
drivers lack the skill of car control is such a bizarre assertion that
it requires a lot of backing up, none of which has been apparent so
far.
You're not supposed to be convinced - you are making wild assertions
therefore the onus of proof is on you.
Er, what?
It's not former TC drivers that have raced in F1, its former F1
drivers that have raced in TC. In any case, the drivers were perfectly
capable of controlling either type of car.
I know the power to weight ratio is much
Why? Any driver who has ever made such a transition from F1 to another
formulae has pointed out the much wider tolerances afforded by
Indycars, Touring Cars, GT cars or whatever. In F1 because of the
level of competition and the way the rules and innovations have forced
the cars to be developed, the cars are constantly on a knife edge if
you want to run quickly. When the car loses control it happens
incredibly quickly, so if a driver in an F1 car is sliding a car
around you can be sure that it takes extreme talent to keep it all
together.
However, what you should also remember is that when you are sliding a
car around you are losing time - the car is slower, you're burning up
your tyres and losing acceleration. It takes more skill to drive at
that speed and NOT slide the car.
I won't be holding my breath!
Cheers!
John
