rec.autos.simulators

by **GP4 G** » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:21:22

New on the www.grandprixgames.com official site

"Grand Prix 4 patch"

Infogrames wishes to make it clear that the patch for Grand Prix 4
labeled "patch 4.0" and released on the website 2 September 2002 has
now been withdrawn. The patch was produced and released in error by
Infogrames without the authorisation or participation of Simergy
Limited or Geoff Crammond. Infogrames would like to offer its sincere
apologies for any inconvenience caused. A replacement patch will be
made available shortly."

by **Cong** » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:06:14

Incredible....How to kill a franchise...

by **Adam** » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:48:45

How can you kill something that has already died?

by **Doug Elliso** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:56:59

What a nice swan song for Microprose.

Doug

by **Larr** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:02:55

Ah, the old "The publisher knows how to program better than the original
author" trick.

-larry

by **Gerry Aitke** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 04:30:19

> Ah, the old "The publisher knows how to program better than the original
> author" trick.

GC is a ***, my cat could code more efficiently than him.

Gerry

by **Mobs** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 07:00:45

How about apologising for GP4 period.

by **ymenar** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 07:56:55

Hahahahaha this is beyond the state of "pathetivity". Basically, Geoff
Crammond doesn't want his software have any kind of evolution. Well it just
proves what we already knew <G>

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Darf** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:49:48

Seems to me that this is true, I think that no matter what is wrong with his
wares, he refuses to have anything to do with a patch, as if a patch would
be an admission that there was something wrong with his "perfect" Sim.
Instead of looking at the issues objectively, eg, why can't GPL2, 3, 4, be
played successfully via modem, internet, etc, and yet Papy allows this to
happen extremely well, even with a 33.6K Modem.Ok lets look at their code
and see how they have done it. No, his style is this, my way is the only
way, and my code cannot be improved. That attitude has led him to where he
is now.
Look at the Contrast that you see from the LFS Guys.
Their theory is, OK lets write a very flexible, basic Sim engine, put it out
there, and let the Sim community have all the input into the development of
it.
OK they say that the Force feedback sucks with a LWFF Wheel, lets fix it, a
few days later they release a patch....5 other problems have been fixed
along with it.
If I had the nous to write my own sim, ( which I don't ) I know which one of
the 2 formats that I would follow.
I see LFS as developing into something really big. Especially if they
concentrate on developing Open Wheelers, F1 and Indy, with very few ovals.
(hint hint) :-)

Darf

New World...

by **Gerry Aitke** » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:51:33

> Hahahahaha this is beyond the state of "pathetivity". Basically, Geoff
> Crammond doesn't want his software have any kind of evolution. Well it just
> proves what we already knew <G>

Yep, Geoff's a C***!

Gerry

by **ymenar** » Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:11:22

Exactly, it has led to his idiosyncratic and flawed code being used for the
past 15 years now. 15 years in the *** industry!!

It's impossible to comprehend how somebody can be pro-Crammond, after all
that has happened.

But you know, I can understand Crammond. The guy simply doesn't want to
code all this stuff again. He's a millionaire, why would he stop being
lazy? The cash still goes into his pocket. He's a lazy SOB, who's using
the gamer's poor knowledge for his own purpose.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Darf** » Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:20:26

He uses SOME of the gamers knowledge............but not many of the hard
core SIMers knowledge...........
With the possible exception of Mike Beachamp.....but that isn't Mike's
fault....cos you can't really say too much bad about somebody when you are
having a physical relationship with them. ;-)

Disclaimer:
The writer of this post, does not or will not, intentionally or
unintentionally, make any reference, either willingly or unwillingly
concerning any other RAS poster's *** orientation, either through direct
or indirect comments made, either with or without malice, this comment
should be totally construed as neutrally biased opinion, and no intent of
slander has been or will ever be made towards Mr M Beachamp or any other
person that has or intends to post verbal comment to RAS via electronic or
any other media.

There....I think I covered everything :-)

P.S..... Had a Bourbon or 2 tonight

Darf

> why would he stop being
> lazy? The cash still goes into his pocket. He's a lazy SOB, who's using
> the gamer's poor knowledge for his own purpose.

by **ymenar** » Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:45:32

> P.S..... Had a Bourbon or 2 tonight

Well that explains ;)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Jussi 'Igor' Koukk** » Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:49:16

wrote somtehing like this:

LOL (-:
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- Igor -

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