rec.autos.simulators

Does anybody know if a P-233 MMX will enable me to run GP2 with
evrything on in high-res?  I'm considering this as a low cost
alternative to to a Pentium II, but I don't want to go for it if it does
not have the horse-power.

Mike

I'm using a K6 200 (overclocked to 233)& 32Mb SDRam and gp2 runs
fantastic.

You can run with all graphics on, all textures on, at max frame rate, on
all tracks (even Monaco).

However, the CPU occupancy will be above 100 in some places (especially
Monaco), but this is unavoidable. There is still no cpu (even a 266)
which can run gp2 at full graphics, at max fps, and keep the cpu
occupancy below 100 all the time?

However, gp2 still runs fantastic, and even when the cpu did go above 100
there was not too much noticeable slow down? If you turn off the sky it
does make a difference?

d:-)

 **Peter**

I was using a Cyrix P200+ and that was good but this is so smooth.

In graphics setup the estimate always says greater than 25fps available
even with sky and smoke on insvga with everything selected.

In real life at monaco with all on and setting the frame at 21fps gives
the sort of play i got with a p166+ and 14fps so its ok but not good.
Take the sky and smoke away....who needs it anyway.... and 21 fps gives
less than 100% occ and real smooth play at all circuits except Monaco at
which with these settings is still very good but occ rises above 100% in
a few places.

Its not so much the extra graphics that please me but the smoothness
when driving that comes with the extra fps.

Mike.

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Also still keep sky and smoke off. Game still sucks.

Sorry if I interupted. Now back to your previously scheduled program...

=8>)-

-DG-

Your not still slagging off gp2 are you?

I seem to remember you, and others, stating gp2 would be superceded as
the no'1 F1 sim, when F1(Eidos) was due out, and when Formula
1(Psygnosis) came out, and then there was Power F1 (Eidos). (that may not
be the correct order?)

But hey, you know what? they *all* turned out to be not even in the same
league as gp2.

Sure, Formula 1 is good for a *blast* ala arcade style zip round a
circuit. But none of them have the same style, content, or sheer realism
that a *sim* needs. So GP2 is still no'1......until gp3?

d:~))

 **Peter**

On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 18:33:58 -0500, Michael Bara

Hi All,

I have a P233MMX cpu, I run all graphic's less the sky, I set my frame at
a low 15fps but can go as high as 21.3fps but that eats into PO, I  would
recommend a setting of 17fps.

Reread your posts sometime. I dont think my main argument was comparing
GP2
to other F1 sims. They weren't out at the time I was runnin' my trap. My
main arguement
was that you can't race at an acceptable framerate thats worth playing
on the fastest
computer to date and that it was shy of any useful utilities and
features.

Anyway, Im not gona start to compile my views on non supported software
again.
It aint worth it.

GP2 will be a great sim someday when pentiums are a thing of the past,
but by then,
"something" _WILL_ be out that will be a completed version of a great F1
sim.

Ive seen 'em, they suck, doesnt mean it'll make GP2 run any faster on my
P200 and
even if your argument _was_ valid, dont credit yourself too much for
only a
few weeks. When a 'puter that can make me fly down the streets of Monico
against
the best in the world via modem and make me feel like Im there after
spending over
3 grand on a system, then come talk to me, right now, get a clue. ICR2
and N2 do
those for me. I only practice GP2 to learn the courses. Hungary, 1:16,
is that
any good? Not as good as Shumacher's low 1:14 last Sunday.

I hope that "GP3" adds to the realism,....we'll see,..... when I pirate
it<g>.

GP3? You mean GP2 part 2!

=8>)-

-DG-

Don't play it then.
--
Dave Bowers

First of all: you guys both start off by saying that

(quote)

Hell! I can do that too! But obviously the question is whether it goes with PO
below 100%. NOT estimated famerate is important, NOT "noticeable" slowdowns. We
need HARD FACTS: put everything on in SVGA and watch PO during a lap at Monaco
starting at the end of the grid.

Only when PO stays below 100% with 25fps selected and in every place of the
circuit, you can say that your processor can run GP2 "full detail realtime
25fps". OK Let's be generous and accept that smoke from spinning tires or a
crash or failure should not be taken into account (you need a CRAY for that :-)
)

Post the results!

BTW: I know you don't need that kind of detail to enjoy the game, but it is what
people expect when they ask whether "the game runs smooth with all details"

Then Mark says:

Don't really understand you... You can get that kind of smoothness on a P200+ as
well by simply turning the graphics a little down. Then how can you say that
it's not the extra graphics which make the difference? A contradiction if you
ask me... :-)

JoH
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