rec.autos.simulators

> Along with him, the tour is missing Virenque, Pantani, Zule, and one other
> rider (top rider for many years from Belgium, I think) that made it more
> interesting than it is this year.

> David G Fisher

> (Bye virenque and pantani) and
> > everybody knows that Armstrong is better, so it's not really fun
anymore,
> > until Armstrong starts to go down and the next guy comes around...

> David G Fisher

> >   Pantani virtually killed himself trying to prove he could outclimb
> > Armstrong.  On the big hill last year, Armstrong rode in Pantani's
shadow
> > for most of the climb, then at the very end, eased up to allow Pantani
the
> > victory..Similar to how LA followed Lars up the hill.  This act of
respect
> > by Armstrong was misinterpreted and infuriated the Pirate so much he
rode
> > the next climbing stage without any thought of strategy...only the
intense
> > desire humiliate Armstrong.  (he withdrew from the Tour the next morning
> > after his body practically decomposed from within)
> >   I don't think the Pirate would have been a threat for the over all
Tour
> in
> > 2001, certainly he might have taken a stage or two, but he cooked
himself
> > last year.
> > dave henrie

> > > What is the name of the fantastic (and flamboyant) sprinter who won a
> few
> > > stages in the tour last year? Each year he would win some flat stages,
> and
> > > then retire from the tour in the mountains.

> > > Along with him, the tour is missing Virenque, Pantani, Zule, and one
> other
> > > rider (top rider for many years from Belgium, I think) that made it
more
> > > interesting than it is this year.

> > > David G Fisher

> > > (Bye virenque and pantani) and
> > > > everybody knows that Armstrong is better, so it's not really fun
> > anymore,
> > > > until Armstrong starts to go down and the next guy comes around...

> >Especially interesting since O'grady (Australia, anybody home ?) has the
> >green jersey (points ranking) and Zabel (Germany) who has won it the last
5
> >times wants it back...

> Sure am home....I missed some coverage over the past few days but can't
wait
> to see how O'Grady finishes.  It's been a while since an Aussie was
wearing
> a leader's jersey for any length of time!

> Ben

> what do you guys think of the coverage of the Tour.  We have been
> getting Phill Liggett & Paul Sherwin for the last 10 years or so.

> Excellent and informative for an ininformed viewer like me :)

> Phil has become a welcome voice sort of like Murray Walker is as well.
> He doesn't make as many gaffs as Murray though...

> Regards all,
> istoff

> "Its easy to get lost in thought
> if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

> David G Fisher

> > I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Italian Mario Cippolini. He is a
> pure
> > sprinter and won a bunch of stages over the last couple of years. Pretty
> > flashy guy too - the media loved him. I'm sure the climbers didn't have
a
> > ton of respect for him though - win the bunch sprints then disappear:
not
> > really riding the Tour as such...

> > > What is the name of the fantastic (and flamboyant) sprinter who won a
> few
> > > stages in the tour last year? Each year he would win some flat stages,
> and
> > > then retire from the tour in the mountains.

> > > Along with him, the tour is missing Virenque, Pantani, Zule, and one
> other
> > > rider (top rider for many years from Belgium, I think) that made it
more
> > > interesting than it is this year.

> > > David G Fisher

> > > (Bye virenque and pantani) and
> > > > everybody knows that Armstrong is better, so it's not really fun
> > anymore,
> > > > until Armstrong starts to go down and the next guy comes around...

> what do you guys think of the coverage of the Tour.  We have been
> getting Phill Liggett & Paul Sherwin for the last 10 years or so.

> Excellent and informative for an ininformed viewer like me :)

> Phil has become a welcome voice sort of like Murray Walker is as well.
> He doesn't make as many gaffs as Murray though...

> Regards all,
> istoff

> "Its easy to get lost in thought
> if you don't go there often"    - Me, 1993

> Mikkel

> > Yes, that's him. Thanks. I wonder why he's not in the Tour this year.

> > David G Fisher

> > > I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Italian Mario Cippolini. He is
a
> > pure
> > > sprinter and won a bunch of stages over the last couple of years.
Pretty
> > > flashy guy too - the media loved him. I'm sure the climbers didn't
have
> a
> > > ton of respect for him though - win the bunch sprints then disappear:
> not
> > > really riding the Tour as such...

> > > > What is the name of the fantastic (and flamboyant) sprinter who won
a
> > few
> > > > stages in the tour last year? Each year he would win some flat
stages,
> > and
> > > > then retire from the tour in the mountains.

> > > > Along with him, the tour is missing Virenque, Pantani, Zule, and one
> > other
> > > > rider (top rider for many years from Belgium, I think) that made it
> more
> > > > interesting than it is this year.

> > > > David G Fisher

> > > > (Bye virenque and pantani) and
> > > > > everybody knows that Armstrong is better, so it's not really fun
> > > anymore,
> > > > > until Armstrong starts to go down and the next guy comes around...

> >Especially interesting since O'grady (Australia, anybody home ?) has the
> >green jersey (points ranking) and Zabel (Germany) who has won it the last
5
> >times wants it back...

> Sure am home....I missed some coverage over the past few days but can't
wait
> to see how O'Grady finishes.  It's been a while since an Aussie was
wearing
> a leader's jersey for any length of time!

> Ben

> --

> "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> mark


> >   I haven't seen any of the Sunday riding yet, but on Saturday, that
Lance
> > Armstrong fella...whoa!    The pressure he put on everyone during the
last
> > climb was amazing.
> > (did I mention he was Yank?)
> > dave henrie