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Inaccurate tracks or not, im not a fan at all of F1. 20 cars, no passing
unless theres a crash or its in the pits, and real close racing is defined
by a 1.5sec gap. HOWEVER i will by f1 2002 only for the potential it has in
the mods, its what made SCGT so great. Its unfortunate about the tracks but
they do have limited time and resources, i think tho they really could have
done without those mammoth bumps (they seem more like the mountains in the
alps) that resmble a supercross track more so a road racing track. But
making comprimises is a part of life... i guess.
Luke
-=87=-
> > Just spoken to a mate who's downloaded a copy of F12002 off an FTP.
> > Now granted - this might still be a beta - but he DOES know his sims
> and
> > he's DISGUSTED at the tracks - no change from F12001 at all.
> > WTF are they playing at. My 2 gripes with F12001 are the menu system
> and the
> > tracks. Seemingly they've fixed neither!
> > Anyone else know anything about this?
> > Doug
But you would have to retexture the tracks from what ive heard.
> > > Looking for it now :)
> > > > > Yeah, F1 2002 has the same inaccurate fantasy tracks that F1 2001
> > > > > has.
> > > > Chatting to the guy - Silverstone's not changed - The A1 ring is
> > > laughable.
> > > > The new layout N'ring and Hockenheim both suck increadbly.
> > > > Doug
> > Thinking about it - look at the F12002 Demo. What's the single obvious
> > thing about that track.
> > It's completly flat.
> > Anything else and they just dont bother doing a decent job
> > Have these guys not seen the tracks in F1RC?
> > Doug
> It can't be a "simulation" of the reality of Formula One if it can model
> correctly the basis of the tracks that the racecars race over. We're
> talking about the principles of racing simulations here. Track modeling
is
> promordial.
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The altitudes are exaggerated like somebody says they're like mountains.
Bumps are in the middle of nowhere for no reason, then there's banked
corners too, etc. Curbs are all wrong (see monaco). Nurburgring is _way_
too narrow, I could go on.... It's a shame the tracks are like this. I
guess it's because of the tight schedules put on ISI by EA but I really wish
they put some effort into the tracks, (visited each circuit, took a good
1500 pictures, used GPS etc.), because F1RC has shown that recreating tracks
realistically can be done, so hopefully F1 2003 will be an improvement.
Andreas, GPL tracks are *far* more realistic than this - sure, Spa is a bit
off, Silverstone too, but at least it resembles the track. Just try A1 Ring
in f1 2002 to see what I mean.
Rick
> > Just spoken to a mate who's downloaded a copy of F12002 off an FTP.
> > Now granted - this might still be a beta - but he DOES know his sims
and
> > he's DISGUSTED at the tracks - no change from F12001 at all.
> > WTF are they playing at. My 2 gripes with F12001 are the menu system and
> the
> > tracks. Seemingly they've fixed neither!
> > Anyone else know anything about this?
> > Doug
F1RC has the tracks, F12001 Has the Physics, Neither have a decent menu
system - but Papy do a good replay system and net code
It's tragic that neither F1RC or F12001 can get it right
Doug
No - he said it's still shit - and anyone who's played the demo would have
to agree
Doug
> > Wait a minute - he said the menu system hasn't changed? Then he
> > downloaded a clever fake based on F1 2001. The menu system HAS changed,
> > just look at the demo.
> No - he said it's still shit - and anyone who's played the demo would have
> to agree
> > > Wait a minute - he said the menu system hasn't changed? Then he
> > > downloaded a clever fake based on F1 2001. The menu system HAS
changed,
> > > just look at the demo.
> > No - he said it's still shit - and anyone who's played the demo would
have
> > to agree
> There's nothing wrong with the menu system in the demo! Anyone who's
> tried it would have to agree.
Wow.
> The altitudes are exaggerated like somebody says they're like mountains.
> Bumps are in the middle of nowhere for no reason, then there's banked
> corners too, etc. Curbs are all wrong (see monaco). Nurburgring is _way_
> too narrow, I could go on.... It's a shame the tracks are like this. I
> guess it's because of the tight schedules put on ISI by EA but I really
wish
> they put some effort into the tracks, (visited each circuit, took a good
> 1500 pictures, used GPS etc.), because F1RC has shown that recreating
tracks
> realistically can be done, so hopefully F1 2003 will be an improvement.
> Andreas, GPL tracks are *far* more realistic than this - sure, Spa is a
bit
> off, Silverstone too, but at least it resembles the track. Just try A1
Ring
> in f1 2002 to see what I mean.
> Rick
> > It doesnt bother me really, i play GPL and those tracks arent really
100%
> > accurate either.
> > > Just spoken to a mate who's downloaded a copy of F12002 off an FTP.
> > > Now granted - this might still be a beta - but he DOES know his sims
> and
> > > he's DISGUSTED at the tracks - no change from F12001 at all.
> > > WTF are they playing at. My 2 gripes with F12001 are the menu system
and
> > the
> > > tracks. Seemingly they've fixed neither!
> > > Anyone else know anything about this?
> > > Doug
"Haqsau"
You guys are
That's because we know we have to hurry cuz the shadow goverment
will shut down all internet access once the comet hits and destroys half the
planet!!!
dave henrie
"Douglas Ellison" > > > > Wait a minute - he said the menu system hasn't
changed? Then he
Whether it's good or bad it is just menu's. Fix the dang setup naming
and sorting. i.e. get them sorted by track and don't make me have to retype
the full name for each tiny change I make. Do that and the rest of the menu
stuff is small change. I buy a title for it's racing not it's menu's.
dave henrie
> > > > Wait a minute - he said the menu system hasn't changed? Then he
> > > > downloaded a clever fake based on F1 2001. The menu system HAS
> changed,
> > > > just look at the demo.
> > > No - he said it's still shit - and anyone who's played the demo would
> have
> > > to agree
> > There's nothing wrong with the menu system in the demo! Anyone who's
> > tried it would have to agree.
> Oh good god - you actually think that's a good menu system?
> Wow.
