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Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

Laurence Lindstro

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Laurence Lindstro » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

   I've been very happy with my TB Montego, and it's digital
joystick port.  

   I need to outfit a new PC.  I'll keep the Montego in my
current PC, but it's a year old.  I'm wondering if I should
get another Montego, or Montego 2.  

   I'm unfamiliar with Soundblaster products, should I be
looking there?  Do they have digital game ports?  

   Sound quality is important.  I don't think that's an
issue with good quality equipment.  The joystick interface,
however, is critical.  

                                                  Thanks
                                                  Larry

Jerry Moreloc

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Jerry Moreloc » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Don't know about the Creative stuff, but the MX300 is, IMO, a very good card
and I know that the digital port it has is AOK.

Jerry Morelock


Laurence Lindstro

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Laurence Lindstro » Mon, 02 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Thanks Jerry:

   I'm concerned about Diamond's MX300 drivers.  

   The "Best sound card?" thread that is currently running
has stories of people who have had their driver loads fail
2/3 of the way through.  

                                                     Larry

Matt Miragli

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Matt Miragli » Tue, 03 Aug 1999 04:00:00

To be honest, I pre-ordered the MX300 when it first came out and have
been extremely happy with it.. And N3 or N2000 is going to suport A3d
:o)

Matt


>    I've been very happy with my TB Montego, and it's digital
> joystick port.

>    I need to outfit a new PC.  I'll keep the Montego in my
> current PC, but it's a year old.  I'm wondering if I should
> get another Montego, or Montego 2.

>    I'm unfamiliar with Soundblaster products, should I be
> looking there?  Do they have digital game ports?

>    Sound quality is important.  I don't think that's an
> issue with good quality equipment.  The joystick interface,
> however, is critical.

>                                                   Thanks
>                                                   Larry

Foxba

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Foxba » Tue, 03 Aug 1999 04:00:00

None of the Creative sounds cards have digital game port.


Neil Rain

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Neil Rain » Wed, 04 Aug 1999 04:00:00


> None of the Creative sounds cards have digital game port.

This is true, but the gameport is *much* better than the standard one
that come on most motherboards, and the SBLive has the lowest CPU
overhead of any sound card, I believe.

You could always get a PDPI card as well...  ;-)



> >    I've been very happy with my TB Montego, and it's digital
> > joystick port.

> >    I need to outfit a new PC.  I'll keep the Montego in my
> > current PC, but it's a year old.  I'm wondering if I should
> > get another Montego, or Montego 2.

> >    I'm unfamiliar with Soundblaster products, should I be
> > looking there?  Do they have digital game ports?

> >    Sound quality is important.  I don't think that's an
> > issue with good quality equipment.  The joystick interface,
> > however, is critical.

> >                                                   Thanks
> >                                                   Larry

Laurence Lindstro

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Laurence Lindstro » Wed, 04 Aug 1999 04:00:00



> > None of the Creative sounds cards have digital game port.

> This is true, but the gameport is *much* better than the standard one
> that come on most motherboards, and the SBLive has the lowest CPU
> overhead of any sound card, I believe.

> You could always get a PDPI card as well...  ;-)

   Isn't a digital interface a digital interface?  Is the PDPI
better than the digital ports on my Montego?  

   I looked at their page, the PDPI seems to still be an ISA
device.  I heard, I have no way of knowing, that there is a
performance hit by having ISA devices in the system.  

   I'm going to have a lot of PCI equipment, including a serial
MUX.  So having a joystick interface on a sound card is important.  

                                                           Thanks
                                                           Larry

Neil Rain

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Neil Rain » Wed, 04 Aug 1999 04:00:00




> > > None of the Creative sounds cards have digital game port.

> > This is true, but the gameport is *much* better than the standard one
> > that come on most motherboards, and the SBLive has the lowest CPU
> > overhead of any sound card, I believe.

> > You could always get a PDPI card as well...  ;-)

>    Isn't a digital interface a digital interface?  Is the PDPI
> better than the digital ports on my Montego?

>    I looked at their page, the PDPI seems to still be an ISA
> device.  I heard, I have no way of knowing, that there is a
> performance hit by having ISA devices in the system.

>    I'm going to have a lot of PCI equipment, including a serial
> MUX.  So having a joystick interface on a sound card is important.

I don't know whether the PDPI is better than the Montego - speed-wise
they're probably the same (both instant by comparison with analogue) -
the PDPI does have some fancy smoothing circuitry which makes the signal
ultra-stable, apparently (and it is indeed extremely smooth and solid).
Again, I don't know how that compares with the Montego.

Having said that, the analogue joystick port on the SBLive is also
pretty smooth - I can set the steering to fully linear without jitter,
which I certainly couldn't with the old gameport.

I guess it comes down to whether the CPU overhead reduction due to using
a digital gameport is more important than the CPU overhead reduction due
to using a SBLive card!  ;-)

Foxba

Digital J-Stick Ports on Soundcards?

by Foxba » Wed, 04 Aug 1999 04:00:00



> > None of the Creative sounds cards have digital game port.

> This is true, but the gameport is *much* better than the standard one
> that come on most motherboards, and the SBLive has the lowest CPU
> overhead of any sound card, I believe.

Lowest CPU usage indead but not in the game port as you still need to poll
the game port for joystick inputs which can eat up to 10~20% CPU usage in
some extreme cases. I don't see how, being a PCI game port, it can be much
better than ISA game port because game port timing cycle is pretty
slow(that's why you need a lot of CPU cycle to poll it) and PCI won't
accelerate it a bit.

Isn't that cost you more than the cost of a MX300 ($50 at most places).

Foxbat


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