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Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

Laurence Lindstro

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Laurence Lindstro » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

I purchased a Montego A3D Xstream  last week, but I haven't
had a chance to install it yet.  

   The box says nothing about the joystick port being digital.  
It says it's "Speed Compensated".  The "Getting Started" guide
makes no mention of the joystick port being digital either.  
I saw no reference to a digital joystick port on the Turtle
Beach home page either.  

   Combatsim states that it is a digital port.  I didn't see
it reviewed in PCME, but I might have missed it.  

   There is also some confusion about the ability to turn off
this port.  I'm thinking of going with the PDPI some time.  

                                                      Thanks
                                                      Larry

Laurence Lindstro

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Laurence Lindstro » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

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   OOPS, I saw the reference to a digital port in the TB home
page.  

   Does anybody know how this technology compares to PDPI's?  

   Is there any technical info, for programmers, available for
either device?  

                                                        Thanks
                                                        Larry

Robin G. K

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Robin G. K » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00


It is digital.  I can tell because it clearly dampens rapid changes in
joystick input, presumably to eliminate jitter and provide more solid
centering.  I'm happy with the performance of this gameport so far.

Why would you want to do that?

--

Rob

Mike Kin

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Mike Kin » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

You cannot turn off this port, so make sure you can turn off any existing
ports.
Mike
Brian Po

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Brian Po » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

I'm not a hardware expert by any means, but I think it can function as
either.  You get a choice of "Standard Gameport" and "TBS Montego
Gameport Interface" when configuring your controller.  The controller
behaves quite differently depending on which one you choose.

Of course, there's absolutely no mention of this anywhere in the
documentation so I could just be crazy...

-- Brian


Laurence Lindstro

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Laurence Lindstro » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

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   Oh, I don't know, I just want to know my options.  Mike King
doesn't believe this is one of them.  

   The Combatsim report by Leonard "Viking1" Hjalmarson referred
to the L4 as "the absolute best"

   Thanks guys.  

                                                          Larry

Nos v2.

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Nos v2. » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00

On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:06:28 -0700, Laurence Lindstrom


>   The Combatsim report by Leonard "Viking1" Hjalmarson referred
>to the L4 as "the absolute best"

And for $100.00 US it had better be. :-)

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David CL Franci

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by David CL Franci » Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:00:00




>>I purchased a Montego A3D Xstream  last week, but I haven't
>>had a chance to install it yet.  

>>   The box says nothing about the joystick port being digital.  
[snip]

>It is digital.  I can tell because it clearly dampens rapid changes in
>joystick input, presumably to eliminate jitter and provide more solid
>centering.  I'm happy with the performance of this gameport so far.

Are you certain that *any* soundcard joystick port has a specifically
'digital' mode of operation? The first digital joysticks appeared before
there was any suggestion of digital ports.

As I understand it the standard 'joystick' port on a sound card has two
uses. First as an analogue joystick input that enables 4 analogue
channels and 4 buttons. It's other mode is to act as a 'midi' port and I
had an understanding that that mode is exploited by the 'digital'
joysticks.

If I am wrong (quite possible :-)) then a third mode has been introduced
as the two basic ones must continue to be supported.
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Gonz

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Gonz » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00


>I'm not a hardware expert by any means, but I think it can function as
>either.  You get a choice of "Standard Gameport" and "TBS Montego
>Gameport Interface" when configuring your controller.  The controller
>behaves quite differently depending on which one you choose.

Yep, in my case I can use my analog TopGun Stick with the FCS Driver just
fine, but if I choose to use the TBS Montego Gameport Interface, it causes
my hat switch to lock up in one direction and also causes drift.  Is that
port for digital sticks only??

Yep, and TBS wont even answer my email with even an automated response,
sheesh!
Oh well, still a nice sound card though.

Trip

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Trip » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00


> On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:06:28 -0700, Laurence Lindstrom

> >   The Combatsim report by Leonard "Viking1" Hjalmarson referred
> >to the L4 as "the absolute best"

> And for $100.00 US it had better be. :-)

And it is. I was completely amazed at how good the PDPI gameport is.
Only one minor problem... it's incompatible with Nascar2 in its Digital
mode.

Trips

Robin G. K

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Robin G. K » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00



>>I'm not a hardware expert by any means, but I think it can function as
>>either.  You get a choice of "Standard Gameport" and "TBS Montego
>>Gameport Interface" when configuring your controller.  The controller
>>behaves quite differently depending on which one you choose.

>Yep, in my case I can use my analog TopGun Stick with the FCS Driver just
>fine, but if I choose to use the TBS Montego Gameport Interface, it causes
>my hat switch to lock up in one direction and also causes drift.  Is that
>port for digital sticks only??

No, it works great with my analog Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, and pedals.
My stick does not use the Thrustmaster hat implementation, though.

--

Rob

Gordon Be

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Gordon Be » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00



>> On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:06:28 -0700, Laurence Lindstrom

>> >   The Combatsim report by Leonard "Viking1" Hjalmarson referred
>> >to the L4 as "the absolute best"

>> And for $100.00 US it had better be. :-)

>And it is. I was completely amazed at how good the PDPI gameport is.
>Only one minor problem... it's incompatible with Nascar2 in its Digital
>mode.

>Trips

Same with CH gear when the stick makes a call to a proprietary .vxd
instead of vjoy.vxd (like the CH Combat stick, ForceFx, etc.) Turns
the acclerated port back into analog. Defeats the purpose...

Mike from PDPI said if they can't get CH to work with them on this,
they might have to come up with their own CH drivers...

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Robin G. K

Do we know TB Montego J-Stick Port is Digital?

by Robin G. K » Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:00:00




>>>I purchased a Montego A3D Xstream  last week, but I haven't
>>>had a chance to install it yet.  

>>>   The box says nothing about the joystick port being digital.  
>[snip]

>>It is digital.  I can tell because it clearly dampens rapid changes in
>>joystick input, presumably to eliminate jitter and provide more solid
>>centering.  I'm happy with the performance of this gameport so far.

>Are you certain that *any* soundcard joystick port has a specifically
>'digital' mode of operation?

No, I am not certain of this.  On the contrary, I know for a fact that many
soundcard gameports are _not_ digital.  Where did you get the impression
that I was implying otherwise?

You are confusing two unrelated concepts.  Digital joysticks send
digital information modulated onto an analog signal that is compatible
with old-style analog gameports.  The newer digital gameports are not
really "digital," they simply offload the polling work from the CPU for
normal analog joysticks.  Some people have had problems using digital
joysticks with "digital" gameports.

No, there are still just two modes.  My Turtle Beach Montego can be set up
as a normal run-of-the-mill "analog" gameport or as a "digital" gameport
under Control Panel->Game Controllers->Advanced.  When set up in "analog"
mode, it's just like the gameport on the original Soundblaster--it can be
used as a joystick connector or for MIDI.

--

Rob


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