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New Machine-Good specs?

TlgtrPr

New Machine-Good specs?

by TlgtrPr » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:38:33

Not a hardware guy but, I am upgrading my machine and would appreciate opinions
on the hardware I have been recommended-ANY help appreciated...I am upgrading
rather than buying new as I just got a new sound card and CD-RW...here is what
I have had recommended:

Intel Pentium 4.2.40cGHz                                                    
220.00

  (getting 2 for 1 gig ram)
Gigabyte GA-8PE667 motherbooard                                       110.00
NVIDIA Ge Force FX5600 (128mgb)                                        170.00

Windows XP Home                                                              
120.00

Adding to:
Sound Blaster 5.1 Sound card
CD
CD-RW
Plain old fashoined modem
80 gig HD (plenty for me-only half full now..)..

Does this sound like a fair system?...price seem ok?
Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
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Aide

New Machine-Good specs?

by Aide » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:16:57

what country are you from...?

coz if that is in Estonian dollars its way cheap....:)

AD

TlgtrPr

New Machine-Good specs?

by TlgtrPr » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:06:36

I'm sorry never thought of that..US dollars...and that's just parts-labor
another $150 us
Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
"A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail...  but, a TRUE friend will be
sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."
Kyle Robert

New Machine-Good specs?

by Kyle Robert » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:14:15


> Not a hardware guy but, I am upgrading my machine and would appreciate
opinions
> on the hardware I have been recommended-ANY help appreciated...I am
upgrading
> rather than buying new as I just got a new sound card and CD-RW...here is
what
> I have had recommended:

> Intel Pentium 4.2.40cGHz
> 220.00

>   (getting 2 for 1 gig ram)
> Gigabyte GA-8PE667 motherbooard
110.00
> NVIDIA Ge Force FX5600 (128mgb)
170.00

> Windows XP Home
> 120.00

> Adding to:
> Sound Blaster 5.1 Sound card
> CD
> CD-RW
> Plain old fashoined modem
> 80 gig HD (plenty for me-only half full now..)..

Prices are a little on the high side. For example, you can get a retail
boxed 2.4C from Newegg.com for $177 shipped free or you could step up to a
2.8C for $267. For $170 make sure that is a FX 5600 Ultra, otherwise you can
get non ultra 5600s for less than $150. The current state of graphics cards
could not be more confusing with the different number of pipelines and
varying core and memory speeds coupled with similar naming conventions that
don't always equate to higher number = more performance. Not a bad price on
the RAM if it is a good brand and quality. New motherboards can be picky
about the memory you use. Is that a full version of XP or an upgrade?

Also, I think the Gigabyte GA-8PE667 motherboard is based on the Intel 845
chipset. If so it only supports a 400/533 MHz front side bus and will not
work with the 2.4C that uses the 800 MHz bus. I would suggest a motherboard
based on the Intel 865 or 875 chipset. There are several good 865 based
boards available for right around $100.

Best advice is to do as much research as possible before you make a
purchase. Buy the fastest processor and Graphics card that you can afford
within your budget and try to build in some room to upgrade in the future. I
recommend the following links and online vendors:

http://www.pricewatch.com/
http://www.anandtech.com/
http://www.accupc.com/
http://www.newegg.com/
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/Home.jsp

Kyle

Dalibor Bauernfrajn

New Machine-Good specs?

by Dalibor Bauernfrajn » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:56:00


says...

> Not a hardware guy but, I am upgrading my machine and would appreciate opinions
> on the hardware I have been recommended-ANY help appreciated...I am upgrading
> rather than buying new as I just got a new sound card and CD-RW...here is what
> I have had recommended:

> Intel Pentium 4.2.40cGHz                                                    
> 220.00

>   (getting 2 for 1 gig ram)
> Gigabyte GA-8PE667 motherbooard                                       110.00
> NVIDIA Ge Force FX5600 (128mgb)                                        170.00

> Windows XP Home                                                              
> 120.00

> Adding to:
> Sound Blaster 5.1 Sound card
> CD
> CD-RW
> Plain old fashoined modem
> 80 gig HD (plenty for me-only half full now..)..

> Does this sound like a fair system?

Sure, no problems running LFS, Netkar etc with that ;)
I'd go for AMD but ok.

Well, XP Home is $120 too much.

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TlgtrPr

New Machine-Good specs?

by TlgtrPr » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:42:13

The XP is full 'Home' version.  (I am buying locally, because with my 'limited
to none' hardware knowledge I want a place to go back to if I have problems.)
And yes I hate giving Bill the money, but I have heard that XP is better for
games than win2k that I am running now.

Will check on the mother board-?buss speed? and'ultra'...

Thanks a bunch this was the type of advice I was hoping to get here....
Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
"A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail...  but, a TRUE friend will be
sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."

TlgtrPr

New Machine-Good specs?

by TlgtrPr » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:14:20

Good advice on motherboard-buss speed was wrong-will have to change-will call
after they open.....thanks man!
Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
"A GOOD friend will come bail you out of jail...  but, a TRUE friend will be
sitting next to you saying, "Damn we screwed up!!!!."
Roger Squire

New Machine-Good specs?

by Roger Squire » Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:07:25

    Do *not* buy a non-ultra 5600.  I suggest instead a Radeon 9800 128mb
non-pro.  This is fast as is, and will easily flash to a 9800pro, free
upgrade!

Abit IC7-MAX3, 875P chipset is one of the best, combined with the P4 2.4C
cpu.  This will give you maximum overclocking headroom.

rms

B. Jon

New Machine-Good specs?

by B. Jon » Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:17:38

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a GeForce FX 5600, having just bought
one a couple of weeks ago. However, if I were going to spend $170 on
it, I'd spend $20-30 more and get the 5600 Ultra.
Got my 5600 at googlegear.com for $159 but it came with cables galore
that I would've had to spend extra on (DVI-VGA Adapter for dual
monitors, etc).

Overclocking to 2.1GHZ didn't make any real difference. It's even
playable at 1280x1024 but a little jerky.
"F1 Challenge '99-'02" - same story. Perfect at 1024x768 but jerky at
1280x1024.

You can find current (well, July) video card benchmarks here:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030714/vga_card_guide-12.html

They should help you with your decision.


> >For $170 make sure that is a FX 5600 Ultra, otherwise you can
> > get non ultra 5600s for less than $150.

>     Do *not* buy a non-ultra 5600.  I suggest instead a Radeon 9800 128mb
> non-pro.  This is fast as is, and will easily flash to a 9800pro, free
> upgrade!

> >I would suggest a motherboard
> > based on the Intel 865 or 875 chipset.

> Abit IC7-MAX3, 875P chipset is one of the best, combined with the P4 2.4C
> cpu.  This will give you maximum overclocking headroom.

> rms

MG

New Machine-Good specs?

by MG » Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:45:18

$150 for labor is really high. Places where I looked either put it together
free if you got all the parts there or charged a nominal $25 or so.



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