rec.autos.simulators

I'm an enthusiastic flight simmer and have always considered myself as
non-arcade gamer in fsims, but after reading this ng I'm not sure the
same goes in car simms.  I'm really not that much interested tuning
suspension or wings - i'd rather be driving.  However I would like
some realism, f.ex. I don't want a game where after a collision the
car continues as nothing has happened.

In this respect what F1 and rally sims would you recomment?  F1RS
seems to be highly regarded but is there a way for a newbie to get a
reasonable setup?

Colin McRae could be the choice for a rally sim if my PC can handle
it.  I have P166 (no MMX) 64MB and Matrox Mill 8Mb.  I don't have a 3D
card and am waiting for Matrox to release a PCI version of G-200.
Don't recommend Voodoo because for the flight sim I need a card that
does 3D in a window.  I also may change the CPU for K6 300MHz.

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Colin indeed seems to be the rally game to wait for. There aren't any good
rally sims yet (IRC is crap, imo). But your problems with Colin will be your
problems with F1RS: you need at least a P200 and a Voodoo card to get smooth
framerates. I had a P200 MMX, 32 EDO RAM and Voodoo1 system and F1RS was
good, except for a very choppy first lap. Now I got a Celeron 266 OC to 333,
64 PC100 RAM and a Voodoo2 and it's heaven. Really. Forget about flight sims
in a window. Get another flightsim! And get Voodoo2 and a new CPU.
Or... you can have a Voodoo card and still play games in a window (thought
not with the Voodoo support). Getting a Voodoo card doesn't mean you can't
play non-glide games anymore! You can even play D3D games using your coming
G200 card and disable D3D for the Voodoo card. Computers are very flexible
things, really... The choice is yours :-)

Jeroen van Engelenhoven

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Otherwise, I think you are stuck with previous generation sims like Indycar 2
(excellent, but hard) and F1GP2.

I wonder too.  FS98 benefited, but that's been out for a long time and I can't
imagine he refers to it as his P166/Millenium is not up to the challenge.  So,
what fsim is it?

Well, "Rush" in that it is a Voodoo with 3D/2D that will do the 3D in a
window.  But by all reports it is *faster* than the Voodoo2 in
non-multitextured games due to a higher clocking, and a fast 2D performer.  
While problems may arise on release, it looks like his best bet for now.  The
G200 seems pretty decent, but is not at the top of the class for 3D.

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funny and simply say the game is suited for all ages. :-)

Jeroen

And please, stay funny... ;^)

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I'm holding my breath to get my hands on the new MS Combat Flight Sim
that will be released soon.  Also with almost every major plyer
releasing new 3D cards I want to wait a few months before I decide how
dramatic upgrade I need to do.  My spouse and budget are definitely
saying that fastest K6-2 and soon to be released Matrox PCI version of
G200 would suffice.  Otherwise it's also the motherboard, main memory,
the case ... everything else but the monitor and HD's :-(

As this waiting is becoming too much I'll probably get a used Voodoo 1
and dump it after upgrading.

One requirement I didn't mention earlier is that if I go for 2D/3D
combo, the 2D part must work with XFree as I use Linux extensively.
There already is a working beta version for G200.

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If you don't need it, always pays to wait.  I think with more mature drivers,
the TNT and the yet-to-be-released Savage3D (I'll stay away from the "Tom's
Hardware" debate except to say I don't go with him on this one), can be quite
impressive.  Still, I'd go Banshee for today's Glide support.

Thing is, upgrades now are cheaper than ever.  I guess you are talking Celeron
300A, Abit BH6, ATX case, and DIMMs.  Yes, a lot of new stuff, but "only"
about $400.  I may go this way.  I think I want an Intel since I do a lot of
FPU-intensive process modeling (differential-algebraic eqns) for work.

I think this is wise.  Or, why dump it?  If you want a non-3dfx 2D/3D card,
you can always use the Voodoo1 for Glide-only or Glide-preferred titles.

Can't help you there.

This brings us closer to the subject of this ng - would my currently
preferred candidates F1RS and Colin McRae perform better under Glide
than D3D?

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