rec.autos.simulators

GPL vs Grand Turismo

Andre Warrin

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
good as all the Playstation owners state?
Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
the playstation racing games are even more crap?

And has anyone tried it on Bleem , the playstation emulator? I read
that it runs fine, but does it run at 100% speed?

If it's really good I'm gonna buy Grand Turismo and the Bleem
emulator, so I'm very curious about your experiences with Grand
Turismo.

Andre

Zonk

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Zonk » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00


>Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
>good as all the Playstation owners state?

Lots of cars. I guess, handling is quite well done, but no damage. The racing
is too short.

Z.

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James Pickar

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by James Pickar » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I BOUGHT it for my Bleem emulator..   and it works pretty good..    just
haven't got my wheel working yet..   that is next..  should be great
then..

James Pickard,
Melbourne,
AUSTRALIA


> Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
> good as all the Playstation owners state?
> Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
> the playstation racing games are even more crap?

> And has anyone tried it on Bleem , the playstation emulator? I read
> that it runs fine, but does it run at 100% speed?

> If it's really good I'm gonna buy Grand Turismo and the Bleem
> emulator, so I'm very curious about your experiences with Grand
> Turismo.

> Andre

Chris Schlette

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Chris Schlette » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

It does not compare at all to GPL, period.  I enjoyed it for a PlayStation
racer, but thats about it....and can't comment on how well it works with
BLEEM.


John Walla

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by John Walla » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00



A bit of both I would say.

I think the fact that most of the Playstation racing games (of which
there are many) are ***helps matters, but GT is an exceptionally
good game. It strikes a beautiful balance between arcade, sim, and
strategy, which really helps the longevity of it. There are some
annoying points such as no damage, the driving being a tad too arcadey
for my taste etc, but overall it's really good.

It runs fine, looks totally gorgeous under 3D mode (way better thanb
PSX) but doesn't play as well as on a PSX proper.

If you can stretch to a PSX and GT then go for it (although if you're
going to do that you'd be better to wait and buy a PSX2 and GT2).
Personally I wouldn't think GT and Bleem! would be a good option -
Bleem! was quite good but nothing like as good as the (free!)
UltraHLE. I went out and bought Zelda having played it on UltraHLE, it
ran sooooo well. I wasn't that impressed by GT on Bleem though, but
I'll be interested in the experiences of others.

Cheers!
John

Andre Warrin

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Thanks John, you saved me some money here!

Andre





>>Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
>>good as all the Playstation owners state?
>>Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
>>the playstation racing games are even more crap?

>A bit of both I would say.

>I think the fact that most of the Playstation racing games (of which
>there are many) are ***helps matters, but GT is an exceptionally
>good game. It strikes a beautiful balance between arcade, sim, and
>strategy, which really helps the longevity of it. There are some
>annoying points such as no damage, the driving being a tad too arcadey
>for my taste etc, but overall it's really good.

>>And has anyone tried it on Bleem , the playstation emulator? I read
>>that it runs fine, but does it run at 100% speed?

>It runs fine, looks totally gorgeous under 3D mode (way better thanb
>PSX) but doesn't play as well as on a PSX proper.

>>If it's really good I'm gonna buy Grand Turismo and the Bleem
>>emulator, so I'm very curious about your experiences with Grand
>>Turismo.

>If you can stretch to a PSX and GT then go for it (although if you're
>going to do that you'd be better to wait and buy a PSX2 and GT2).
>Personally I wouldn't think GT and Bleem! would be a good option -
>Bleem! was quite good but nothing like as good as the (free!)
>UltraHLE. I went out and bought Zelda having played it on UltraHLE, it
>ran sooooo well. I wasn't that impressed by GT on Bleem though, but
>I'll be interested in the experiences of others.

>Cheers!
>John

Jet Jagu

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Jet Jagu » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Well, if by "good" you mean "realistic simulator", on a scale of 1 to
10, where 1 is equal to something like Ridge Racer (pure arcade) and
10 is equal to GPL, I'd rate it about 6.5 or 7.  It's sim-like with
arcade tendencies.  If by "good" you mean "a fun game to play" then
it's very good.  It's definitely the best racing game on the PSX.

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JonGue

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by JonGue » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00



It's the usual arcade mix... a car that you can throw and lurch around
bends with little flicks of the analogue joypad, with certain limits
to braking/accel/turning that will allow you to spin out... nothing as
complex as GPL, and more importantly no damage so taking a bend well
instead of just using the wall have only small time benefits.

Lots of cars, which all have characteristics plugged in to make them
differ and seem as close to the real thing as the above physics model
allows... Get the Saburu and you can slide it like mad... hop in
something like the Griffith and you can feel the steering is less
responsive and the above "limits" are easier to break..

I personally love this game, I don't have it or a PSX, but there is
nothing else 3 people can sit down to with a decent sized TV and
stereo hooked up and enjoy 3 hours of racing in what seems like 20
minutes... I'm not sure if that factor means getting GT on my PC,
would suddenly make it seem very shallow.. just as I can't exactly
invite friends over for an evening of GPL...

The other plus is the in-game sounds, very nice and an excellent set
of tracks which really improve the atmosphere, including "Feeder -
Sweet 16" and "Ash - Lose Control"...

Thanks!

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Anssi Lehtin

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Anssi Lehtin » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00



> Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
> good as all the Playstation owners state?
> Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
> the playstation racing games are even more crap?

GT is ***y incredible. The physics might no be quite as excellent as in
GPL, but there's very little obviously wrong with them. My biggest problem
was having no multiplayer (there is a two-player splitscreen option
running just fine), since while the AI drives pretty nice, the cars it
chooses to race against you are often too fast or too slow, and the whole
AI pack drives in one bunch (usually).

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Anssi Lehtinen

Thomas Fo

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Thomas Fo » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00



There were bundles of hype around Gran Turismo when it was first
released, and that hype is still around today. This is probably
because Gran Turismo was quite a leap in games technology, especially
on a console as bucket-weak as the Playstation. Gran Turismo offered a
massive selection of cars, detailed graphics, detailed car physics,
excellent sounds, etc.

Unfortunately, when it came down to it, I wasn't as impressed with it
as I would like to have been.

First of all, many people have problems considering it a 'simulator'.
Yes, you were able to tweak several areas of the cars, but it still
had a very 'arcade' feel about it. This wasn't necessarily such a bad
think, especially for the Playstation.

Is it as good, or anything close to as good as GPL? Not by a skimmer
of a stone on a pond!

Is it a good attempt at a fresh idea for racing on the PSX? Yes! And a
very good one at that!

Thomas Ford

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GT2X

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by GT2X » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00





>> Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
>> good as all the Playstation owners state?
>> Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
>> the playstation racing games are even more crap?

>GT is ***y incredible. The physics might no be quite as excellent as in
>GPL, but there's very little obviously wrong with them. My biggest problem
>was having no multiplayer (there is a two-player splitscreen option
>running just fine), since while the AI drives pretty nice, the cars it
>chooses to race against you are often too fast or too slow, and the whole
>AI pack drives in one bunch (usually).

The only reasonable AI in the game is the 3 Endurance Races
(Grand Valley 300, All-Night I, and All-Night II).  These cars drive
almost like real, reliable opponents.

At one to two hours in length, these races test the endurance of your
PlayStation electronics.  8-)

Well, Normal and Tuned Series are maybe okay.  All the other series
try too hard to let you win.  Which is why they end up in one bunch.
The 4wd Series is the worst.  The effect is you think you "only
barely won", but there is some threshold speed beyond which you are
almost guaranteed to "barely win".  (OTOH, it does keep you on your
toes, until you learn to go beyond the other threshold when you
can actually drop the AI cars in various series; but for the 4wd
series that threshold is quite fast).

But how popular would Gran Turismo have been if it beat everybody
all the time?

Adrian.

GT2X

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by GT2X » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00




>>Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
>>good as all the Playstation owners state?

>Lots of cars. I guess, handling is quite well done, but no damage. The racing
>is too short.

Yes, but if the longest races were any longer, the PlayStation would be
in serious danger of melting.  8-)

There are two 30-lap races and one 60-lap race.

The 60-lap race (Grand Valley 300KM) is pretty much the same length as
a full Grand Prix.  It takes about 1.5 hours to finish; 1:48 if you wait
for all the AI cars to finish.  8-)

Be sure to give your PlayStation a cool-down before starting a GV300.

Oh yes, you need to shark or win your International A license before you
can enter.  And arrange to own a good enough car.  (Any International
Series prize is more than adequate)

Adrian.

Thomas Fo

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by Thomas Fo » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00


> I personally love this game, I don't have it or a PSX, but there is
> nothing else 3 people can sit down to with a decent sized TV and
> stereo hooked up and enjoy 3 hours of racing in what seems like 20
> minutes... I'm not sure if that factor means getting GT on my PC,
> would suddenly make it seem very shallow.. just as I can't exactly
> invite friends over for an evening of GPL...

Why not? I have done!

Thomas Ford

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GT2X

GPL vs Grand Turismo

by GT2X » Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:00:00





>>Hi, can anyone tell me if Grand Turismo for the Sony Playstation is as
>>good as all the Playstation owners state?
>>Is it as good as gpl, or is it highly overrated because the rest of
>>the playstation racing games are even more crap?

>It's the usual arcade mix... a car that you can throw and lurch around
>bends with little flicks of the analogue joypad, with certain limits
>to braking/accel/turning that will allow you to spin out... nothing as
>complex as GPL, and more importantly no damage so taking a bend well
>instead of just using the wall have only small time benefits.

Um, actually, in Gran Turismo, the fastest way around most tracks with
walls is to run along the walls.  That is, using the wall has a not so
small time benefit over taking a bend well.

Adrian.


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