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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> >Crammond gets no more money from me.
> >They should be ashamed IF the above statements are true.
> >The GP2 HYPE was unfair enough and they just did it again I guess.
> Who are "they" ?
> JoH
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The point of my post is that you can't review a warez version of game
because he doesn't know what build he has of the game all you know is the
warez version could be a mid beta build.
The guy showed that he didn't know what he was talking about when he said
the game had no tire temperature setting LOL
Robert GT86 Platts
> >or tire temperature setting i knew there was something wrong.
> >You don't set tire temps dipshit. This proves the rest of your post is
worth
> >spit.
> >snipped a bunch of dumpshit from a idiot.
> >You can't do a review of a warez dumbass because alot of stuff in warez
> >games are usually ripped out of the game.Now back away from the computer
and
> >leave the reviewing to the people who get paid to do it and know what the
> >hell they are talking about.
> Maybe it's you who should back away from the computer....back away and
> realize that just MAYBE Geoff Crammond isn't the second coming of
> christ.....realize that MAYBE Grand Prix 3 won't be "the shit."
> Having played the warez version all I can say is, the released version
> better be WAAAAAY better than this warez one. In fact, I hope it's a
> completely different game and that maybe this was just the proposed
> shareware version or something. After playing it for about an hour
> (not much, I know), the first thing that came to mind was Daikatana,
> as in..."I waited several years for THIS!?" It just looks and feels
> so much like GP2, it's scary. This may have been ok three or four
> years ago, but not now (in my opinion at least). Just some things
> I've noticed that have turned me off right off the bat. The cars, or
> rather the movement of the cars. They don't appear to be firmly
> planted on the ground. For example...at Monaco, when the cars are
> rounding the Loews hairpin and going downhill, they sort of "sink"
> down the hairpin. The road goes downhill, but instead of the cars
> following the change in elevation, they stay straight and level which
> makes the front wheels appear to be off the ground....just like World
> Circuit and GP2. Another is the way in which all tracks kind of look
> the same. For example, it seems that every track uses the same style
> of curbing, only different colors, unlike F1 2000. In F1 200 for
> example, some of the curbing at Spa is very wide and very pronounced.
> In GP3, all the curbing is the same....flat strips about 3 inches
> wide. Also, everything appears to be flat and smooth. In F1 2000,
> you got the feeling of driving on uneven pavement as the car would
> bounce up and down while going down the straights. In GP3, it looks
> as if you're driving on glass....no imperfections in the surface
> whatsoever. Another thing which irks me is the lame ass penalty
> system. Cut the track and you get a black flag, which equates to you
> abitrarily being reduced to 35mph for 15secs or so, rather than
> actually having to come into the pits for a stop and go. Again, just
> like GP2. And what if there is a car on the track and you have to cut
> the track to avoid it. Bam! Penalty. It's sort of like being black
> flagged in N3 for speeding down pit lane when you happen to spin
> through it because of an accident. And then there are the canned
> spins. They appear to still be around. I can induce a spin, let go
> of the wheel, and most of the time the cars comes to rest facing the
> exact same direction. Eerie! There's more that underwhelms me (like
> the sound), but I've gone on too long as it is.
> With that being said, I know this is a warez version, and when the
> release comes out, I'll probably buy it on sight, if only because this
> warez release can't possibly the final, or even close to the final (at
> least I hope not). But I must admit I am nevertheless disappointed,
> especially after all the hype.
I'm not taking up for GP3 but it's been widely known for awhile the game
wasn't going to have any vast improvements over GP2.
Its very hard to have a typo between temperature and pressure. If it doesn't
have Tire PSi settings then I'd say its a very early build maybe even a
alpha since if I remember correctly Gp2 even had tire psi settings and I
seriously doubt Crammond would take a step backwards , he might not take a
step forward and stay in the same spot but I really doubt he would release
something that would be a 10 yr back step in racing sims.
> > Well i have to say im quite discusted at what i have just played.
> > Im still in shock really.
> > This might sound harsh but its not.
> > I suppose as a game overall its good and it is probably the best F1 sim
> > around but i am TRULY dissapointed.
> > Basically its not GP3 its gp2.5
> > All the menus are exactly the same.
> > Ok lets get to the actualt physics which is most important.
> > Well when i saw the setup menus and found that there were no camber
> settings
> > or tire temperature setting i knew there was something wrong.
> > Basically it feels like gp2 A LOT LIKE GP2.
> > Actually the actual game LOOKS like gp2 just with better slightly better
> > graphics.
> > When you go close into barriers they are incredibly pixelated,I have to
> > congradulate crammond hes made the first game ever that i have seen
> > pixelated in the last 3years using a 3d card.I have never seen
blockyness
> on
> > any game since 3dfx came out.
> > The game sounds 99% like GP2 which is totally pathetic and
> unforgivable,its
> > sad infact.
> > And the game STILL HAS CANNED SPINS
> > I am in shock as i write this still.
> > You give it throtte and u spin around 180 degrees all the time.
> > I still havent really felt much difference from gp2 its sad to say.
> > Infact I think F12000 has the better model its certainly more dynamic
but
> > that did have a weird detached feel to it.
> > GP3 like gp2 feels more connected but its not as dynamic as F1 2000.
> > Even the trees are a bit blocky.
> > The wet seems like it could be fun i played it a bit but the game is
still
> > in the dar ages.
> > the set up options are EXACTLY the same as gp2 down to packers.
> > EVen ubisoft had tyre pressure and temperatures,and camber settings and
> that
> > was 4 years ago FFS,i cant beleive crammond.
> > He is still obviosly stuck back in the darkages and so is this game.
> > This isnt even in gpls league.
> > Not even in the same galaxy.
> > gpls graphics make gp3 look pathetic.there is quite a few times when u
see
> > blockyness,andthat is unforgivable in this day and age.GPL looked like
an
> > oil paintingit was so smooth.Crammond is quite pathetic releasing this
and
> > calling it gp3.
> > Sure ill play it and have fun playing it and so will pretty much
> > everyone.just dont expect a revoloutionary simulation because its not
> > that.Dont expect a F1 equivilent or GPL because its not even close.
> > Its basically gp2 with better graphics,wet weather,and tweaked physics.
> > Quite sad.
> [Let's get ready for some big flame wars on r.a.s. btw!!! It's gonna be
> ugly!]
> Actually, we all knew it was going to be that, and the movies released
> yesterday confirmed that it was a fancy version of GP2. I do hope we all
> knew that no?
> But of course, that's not a bad thing. It's a disapointment, but it's not a
> bad thing. It will be the best F1 sim on the market. It's an evolution,
> like GP2 was an evolution over F1GP. GP2 was an incredible hotlapper, and
> that's what I expect with GP3. Chip-in TCP/IP, and you have potential. But
> didn't we all knew what was coming? How come some people are shocked to see
> it's GP2.5?
> I mean everything you said was able to be seen with the hype created. The
> blocky graphics, the big pixels, the possible canned spins, the old sound,
> etc..
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> The GP2 HYPE was unfair enough and they just did it again I guess.
With the aerodynamic and *** compound improvements alone, GP3 should
be a walk in the park compared to GPL. 4 wheel drift was common in 1967
and something you want to avoid in an F1 car in 1998.
Cheers,
Rod.
Lets wait for the full retail version before being critical
about it.
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No, you check them in order to set other things which do affect tyre
temps.
Hmm, THAT proves something too. Leave the reviewing to those who get
paid to do it, paid by who? Oh yes, the companies who release the
software.......
OK, I'll just trust that then.
John
You think not?
John
If I could *copy* it to my garage, why not? :-)
But fun aside, I normally don't use warez (and especially not games-warez),
but I think this is quite a special case.
First, I want to try out, how the game works on my machine, which is even
more important for driving sims (framerates, controller issues, do I like
the feel of the car?, etc.). I don't know, if there will ever be a demo
version and I don't know of any store in Vienna, which accepts returns.
Second, simply curiousity and impatience :-) Since GP3 is one of the most
awaited driving-games this year (just look, how everyone jumped on any new
screenshot, which was posted somewhere), I simply couldn't resist to try it
out a week before it is out, regardless of the common sense, that "warez are
bad".
There are only two possible scenarios for me. Either I like GP3 and see a
chance, that I play it as frequently as GPL, then I'll buy it. Or, if not,
I'll delete the warez version, there's no need to keep a game that isn't
played.
There's a week to decide which way to go.
And please, don't use this as starting point for an endless and senseless
warez-debate, I won't say anything more to this issue.
Peter
I've gotten seriously burned buying games on the strenght of a preview in
the past. Not about to make the same mistake again... then again, they'll
probably praise this one in the review too, because "it's by Crammond"(tm).
Jan.
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