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Athlon 64 3500 to an Athlon-64 X2 4800+
ASUS A8V MB to an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB
GeForce 6800 GT AGP to an GeForce 7800GTX PCIe (eVGA factory clocked at
470Mhz Core)
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro to Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

Also upgraded Power Supply, RAM and Hard Drive, but that doesn't really
matter here.

My Frame Rates in NR2003 with 2x AA and 16x AS were around 40-60 before.
1280X1024 all options in-game at max.

Now with 8xAA and 16xAS and all options in-game at max I'm seeing a
_minimum_ of 80, and it is well over 100 most times.

This was just a basic test I did prior to the upgrade.  Nothing fancy.

Just FYI...

I'll be installing rFactor this weekend.

Half-Life 2 pre-set all settings at the max and looks great.

If you get an X2, don't forget to install the AMD patch and the Microsoft
Patch to prevent stuttering in games due to the dual-cores.  Neither come
with motherboards or the processor.

-Larry

Larry enlightened us with:

|I did an upgrade on my system this week as follows:
|
| Athlon 64 3500 to an Athlon-64 X2 4800+
| ASUS A8V MB to an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB
| GeForce 6800 GT AGP to an GeForce 7800GTX PCIe (eVGA factory clocked at
| 470Mhz Core)
| Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro to Creative X-Fi Elite Pro
|
| Also upgraded Power Supply, RAM and Hard Drive, but that doesn't really
| matter here.
|
| My Frame Rates in NR2003 with 2x AA and 16x AS were around 40-60 before.
| 1280X1024 all options in-game at max.
|
| Now with 8xAA and 16xAS and all options in-game at max I'm seeing a
| _minimum_ of 80, and it is well over 100 most times.
|
| This was just a basic test I did prior to the upgrade.  Nothing fancy.
|
| Just FYI...
|
| I'll be installing rFactor this weekend.
|
| Half-Life 2 pre-set all settings at the max and looks great.
|
| If you get an X2, don't forget to install the AMD patch and the Microsoft
| Patch to prevent stuttering in games due to the dual-cores.  Neither come
| with motherboards or the processor.
|
| -Larry
|

I'm very happy for you, that you get such high frames.  Not sure what the
difference is between 40 and 80, though.

I'm also glad to see you have everything up to the complete maximum.

Actually, what was the purpose of this post?  To show us your rig and high
frames?

I think it's pretty obvious that with a newer computer you're going to get
high frames, no matter if you play the game under water.  8xAA and 16x As
and all that crap-- why not say, "Hey, I got me a new computer and see how
good it is!"

I do not actually see any other purpose for this post, seriously.

And that final little "Just FYI..." leads me to believe that the purpose of
this post was just to toot your own horn.

You can kill me now.  :)

Alanb

The AMD Processor Driver for X2 is on their web site.

The MS Patch is WindowsXP-KB896256-v3-x86-ENU.exe

There is a major Sticky over at HardOCP.com on this subject with all the
info, links, etc...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

That should do it :)

-Larry

My intention was to show that there IS life left in NR2003, and it can get
better with newer hardware.

Have a nice day.

-Larry

Any upgrade I would do now (which Im not) wouldnt do much if anything for
NR2003.  I dont see a need unless I drop below 60FPS which Im well above in
all titles except Lockon.  rFactor might see a bit of improvement in quality
but not enough to warrant the kind of cash required for that upg (not that I
know what you paid but I can guess hehe).

Honestly the guys I want to hear from is the guy who can stretch the useful
life of his *** PC the longest between upg's not the shortest ;)

Nice rig though.  Im more curious why you went dual core this round?  Other
than a few rare titles what can take advantage of the 2nd core?  Hertz is
still king imo.

Mitch

I don't see anything that should need upgrading in at least a year though.
I pretty much tapped this one out.

I usually go for the "2nd best" of each item to save a little money, but I
said***it this time :)

I live at this machine some 14 hours a day.  It is my work machine every
day, and my play machine at night.  Why***around :)

My only objection in this system would be the A8N32-SLI deluxe MB.  It's
fine for me as I'm only running one Video Card (SLI is a bit over-the-top
for me), and only one PCI card (the sound card).

Anything more than that and I would have to recommend others look to a
different MB.  Maybe the ABIT if 16x SLI was wanted.

The problem is the slot arrangements.  Man, it is REALLY tight, and if
anyone wanted to run SLI on this board, for which it is marketed for (one of
the few dual-16x boards on the market) you can totally forget about using
ANY PCI card at all.  There just isn't room, and if you did manage to get it
in there, it would all probably overheat.

It's a nice board.  It's perfect for me.  I just think those running SLI and
PCI at the same time would have a terrible time with it.

-Larry

Kendt

Doom3 on a Voodoo2 good enough for you, Mitch ;)?

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Kendt (who still has a Voodoo5 waiting to go in a 'classic games' PC)

--
Don Burnette

"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
way of the person  that's doing it."

-Larry

Kendt

Surprising - It was stomped by an ATIX850 in most benches.  Looks like
this isn't just a 7800GT with an AGP bus.

yeah, I see and agree they needed to sho the pci e equivalent, but it should
have but then should have included more of the available AGP solutions, that
way I could decide where my 4600 or 6600 or 6800 or what not chices fall
compared to the 7800gs...

right now I am seeing that AGP just sucks on bang per buck,  pretty much.
might was well spend the dough on new system, but that is just me I guess.