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Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

Rick Wes

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Rick Wes » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:34:30

    Oh yes, I almost forgot! For those of you who don't want to take my
advice in my previous post and ignore this humanoid septic system, his

Rick Wes

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Rick Wes » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:39:15

 The site admins obviously didn't care for this guys opinions any more
than we did..... they axed the review. However, this will still access
it... at least for a while....

http://www.game-guru.net/reviews/nascar4/bad.htm

Tom Olive

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Tom Olive » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:42:40

Sheesh, why is that guy reviewing anything. Looks more like something you'd
see in a newsgroup post, not a review. I hope he doesn't actually get paid
for that.


Gregor Vebl

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Gregor Vebl » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:32:43

This is from a Game-Guru.net page called Nascar Racing 4 review
appology:

------------------
Game-Guru.net readers,

 Two weeks ago I received NASCAR Racing 4 in the mail to review. Due to
my lack of interest in the sport, I wrote a negative review. While I was
rambling, I said some derogatory remarks that made fun of Dale
Earndhardt and NASCAR in general. For this I am deeply sorry. I should
not have put down a sport I obviously do not understand. I am sorry for
making fun of fans of the sport, as the stereotypes mentioned in the
review are obliviously completely off base. I was using these
expressions for comedic effect in the review. While I know this is no
excuse for my actions, I am sorry for upsetting many people, especially
those who enjoy this sport.

While I personally believe that I expressed my true opinion of the game,
I understand that I may not have been the best person to review a NASCAR
title. Because of this, I did not like it. You may, and that is your
choice.

If you want to talk with me, and discuss this issue further, please
contact:


I will be glad to talk with anyone about this issue. I strongly believe
in free speech, but free speech does have the potential to be carried
too far; my review is a perfect example of this. Please don't blame
Game-Guru.net for the review, as I take full responsibility for what was
posted. I hope you'll understand, and I will do my best to think before
I type anything in the future.

 Sincerely,
 Tyler Werrin
-------------------


> Check this review of Nascar 4 out guys.  Let the site admins know what
> you think too.

> http://www.game-guru.net/reviews/nascar4/index.htm

> Geoff

Zonk

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Zonk » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:14:22



Is it not a perfectly valid view for those looking for an arcade style
racer?

Z.

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Don Chapma

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Don Chapma » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:37:28

No, a good reviewer should be able to differentiate between how well a game
simulates the sport it is based on, and their own personal preferences. That
is like me giving a bad review to a horror movie only because I prefer
comedies. Ridiculous!

Don Chapman

Don Chapma

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Don Chapma » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:42:43

Now you are being just as prejudiced and biased as that N4 reviewer. Just
because I do crack all day does not mean I listen to eminem. ;)

Don Chapman

Andre Warrin

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:15:35



>Check this review of Nascar 4 out guys.  Let the site admins know what
>you think too.

Ok, the flaming obviously worked, check out the url again.

Andre

Dave Cas

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Dave Cas » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:18:26

At least he had the character to step up to the plate and issue an apology.  
A lot of people wouldn't even do that.  Like those that fired off ***,
offensive emails to him about it.  Want to send off an email voicing your
displeasure about his review, fine, knock yourself out.  Do it with some class
and a little forethought and he mind just decide that us NA$CAR fan(atic)s
aren't such bad people after all.

Dave Casey
Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
www.teamcasey.net
www.lvkc.com
www.buycoolcrap.com

Me, Myself and Ra

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Me, Myself and Ra » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:26:56

Seems OK to me. I like the game much more than the reviewer does, but what
the hell. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I will not let a negative
review ruin my enjoyment of the game. Everyone, take a deep breath and let
it go..............

Todd


Simon Brow

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Simon Brow » Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:42:18

...and how many of these e-mails have you read to judge them all ***?
This is what I sent, and apart from the sarcastic second to last sentence,
it's all logical arguments.  Even the second to last sentence was well
deserved after reading such a review.  That the guy felt the need to
apologise says everything, although he redeemed himself somewhat by doing
so.

e-mail details-

"Honestly, what's the point in someone who doesn't like Nascar or any kind
of
racing sim reviewing a game like Nascar 4.  Of course you're not going to
like it, you don't like Nascar.

Clearly, the Sierra Nascar series sells very well, so some people *do* like
Nascar, and buy Nascar games, expecting them to be as close as possible to
what you'd experience driving in the Nascar series.  If this is what Nascar
4 set out to achieve then it got extremely close.  If the tracks weren't
oval, then it wouldn't be an accurate simulation.

Also, the tracks, although almost all oval, do all vary.  None of them are
perfect ovals.  Plus you have the choice to race any distance you choose, so
you don't have to do 500 laps.

Based on the opinions so eloquently expressed in your review, I'm not
surprised the menus proved too complicated for you.

What a pointless review."


Jeff Vince

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Jeff Vince » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:02:06



>Check this review of Nascar 4 out guys.  Let the site admins know what
>you think too.

   I didn't know DGF reviewed racing sims...

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Eldre

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Eldre » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:44:51


writes:

Dude, his system is faster than my K6-3/400mhz.   It's all relative...  Not
everyone CAN afford the top of the line system...
But, he IS insulting to Nascar and Nascar fans... :(

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Rick Wes

Review of Nascar 4 - Insult to Dale Sr. and NASCAR in general.

by Rick Wes » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:18:47

    Dave,
                While I certainly agree with you in principle, I think the
'reviewers' true character was shown in his original writings, not his apology.
Those opinions and statements were written of his own free will and under no
duress. He said what was in his mind and in doing so revealed it as it is. On the
otherhand, his apology came only after Game-Guru.net pulled the review and no
doubt pressured him to make amends to prevent further tarnishing of their name,
not his. While his apology may well be sincere, the circumstances it was issued
under must cast some doubt on that.
    However, I applaud Game-Guru.net for their swift and very appropriate action
in this matter.

Rick West


> >This is from a Game-Guru.net page called Nascar Racing 4 review
> >appology:

> At least he had the character to step up to the plate and issue an apology.
> A lot of people wouldn't even do that.  Like those that fired off ***,
> offensive emails to him about it.  Want to send off an email voicing your
> displeasure about his review, fine, knock yourself out.  Do it with some class
> and a little forethought and he mind just decide that us NA$CAR fan(atic)s
> aren't such bad people after all.

> Dave Casey
> Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
> www.teamcasey.net
> www.lvkc.com
> www.buycoolcrap.com


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