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N4: HD activity?

Colin Harri

N4: HD activity?

by Colin Harri » Sat, 19 May 2001 09:17:22

Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race (online
or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost without
fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously and the
screen stutters.
If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make sure
I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
TIA!

--

Colin
ICQ 25485061
Fast Food Racing: http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Uncle Feste

N4: HD activity?

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 19 May 2001 09:35:04


> Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race (online
> or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost without
> fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously and the
> screen stutters.
> If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make sure
> I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
> TIA!

To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?

--

Fester

Colin Harri

N4: HD activity?

by Colin Harri » Sat, 19 May 2001 09:49:13

That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm not
sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.

--

Colin
ICQ 25485061
Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/



> > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
(online
> > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
without
> > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously and
the
> > screen stutters.
> > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
sure
> > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
> > TIA!

> To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
> RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?

> --

> Fester

Ed Whit

N4: HD activity?

by Ed Whit » Sat, 19 May 2001 10:49:43

Hi guys, over at alt.windows-me I found some game playing folks that
suggested adding a  new line to the system.ini file that reads:

ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1

in the [386Enh] section of the system.ini.

 Run/msconfig/system.ini tab/click + sign next to [386Enh]/ add new line.
Supposedly this keeps windows out of your harddrive and more dependent on
RAM, if I remember correctly, but it stopped the disk acces probs I had.

--

"Sideways, Slideways, and Every Other Ways"


> That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
> 128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm not
> sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
> Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
> Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.

> --

> Colin
> ICQ 25485061
> Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/




> > > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
> (online
> > > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
> without
> > > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously
and
> the
> > > screen stutters.
> > > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
> sure
> > > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
> > > TIA!

> > To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
> > RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?

> > --

> > Fester

BRH

N4: HD activity?

by BRH » Sat, 19 May 2001 13:56:22

I don't have WinME but, I've read that it has a feature that basically takes a
snapshot of your system state periodically, so that you can revert back to it,
if needed.  I don't recall what this feature is called, but I know that it can
be disabled.  Check your settings for WinME, and see if you can track that down
and disable it.

Note: This is one of the new "improvements" that come with WinME.  This
"feature" was not a part of Win95/98.

Hope this helps........


> That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
> 128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm not
> sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
> Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
> Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.

> --

> Colin
> ICQ 25485061
> Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/




> > > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
> (online
> > > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
> without
> > > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously and
> the
> > > screen stutters.
> > > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
> sure
> > > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
> > > TIA!

> > To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
> > RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?

> > --

> > Fester

--
Bert
Don Burnett

N4: HD activity?

by Don Burnett » Sat, 19 May 2001 10:59:07

Try setting it at 256 min and max, I have mine set to 2.5 times my ram (
128). Also if you could put it on it's own partition or a seperate drive at
least that might help.

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.


> That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
> 128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm not
> sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
> Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
> Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.

> --

> Colin
> ICQ 25485061
> Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/




> > > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
> (online
> > > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
> without
> > > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously
and
> the
> > > screen stutters.
> > > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
> sure
> > > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
> > > TIA!

> > To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
> > RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?

> > --

> > Fester

Colin Harri

N4: HD activity?

by Colin Harri » Sat, 19 May 2001 11:14:39

Magic, thanks to all of you! That's given me some ideas at least. I'll
report back...

--

Colin
ICQ 25485061
Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/

Mike Grand

N4: HD activity?

by Mike Grand » Sat, 19 May 2001 11:42:35

I think that may be for system restore, there is a way to disable it.
 control panel/system/file system/troubleshooting / disable system restore

Mike Grandy

Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team

3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale


  I don't have WinME but, I've read that it has a feature that basically takes a
  snapshot of your system state periodically, so that you can revert back to it,
  if needed.  I don't recall what this feature is called, but I know that it can
  be disabled.  Check your settings for WinME, and see if you can track that down
  and disable it.

  Note: This is one of the new "improvements" that come with WinME.  This
  "feature" was not a part of Win95/98.

  Hope this helps........


  > That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
  > 128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm not
  > sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
  > Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
  > Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.
  >
  > --
  >
  > Colin
  > ICQ 25485061
  > Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/
  >


  > >

  > > >
  > > > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
  > (online
  > > > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
  > without
  > > > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously and
  > the
  > > > screen stutters.
  > > > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
  > sure
  > > > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
  > > > TIA!
  > >
  > >
  > > To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
  > > RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you have?
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Fester

  --
  Bert

Tim Mise

N4: HD activity?

by Tim Mise » Sat, 19 May 2001 17:20:15

Colin, that same exact thing happens to me too.  My system:

WinME
1.33 Ghz Tbird
Abit KT7A-Raid (2 30gb 7200 rpm's in Raid-0 config)
512 MB RAM

Usually about half way through a race, takes about 10-15 seconds or so of
stuttering. (I hold my breath!)

I'll try the system.ini suggestion to see if that helps.

-Tim


Colin Harri

N4: HD activity?

by Colin Harri » Sat, 19 May 2001 19:25:53

The only thing we have in common then, Tim, is Win ME which sort of leans
towards Mike's "System Restore" thingy. Think I'll try that next!

--

Colin
ICQ 25485061
Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/


Ian

N4: HD activity?

by Ian » Sun, 20 May 2001 04:05:37

This was posted here a while back with regards to Windows ME.
It may help ;)

1. Disable System Restore.
Open Control Panel -> System -> Performance Tab -> File System - >
Troubleshooting area -> Disable System Restore
(While you are in this window click on the Floppy Disk tab and uncheck the
box so the system doesn't check for a NEW floppy drive every time it
starts.)
~~
2. Uninstall Pc Health.
Start / Run  "\windows\pchealth\support\pchsetup /uninstall"
~~
3. Turn off Automatic Updating. (This will hog your modem for 30
mins every day when you first go on line if you don't turn it off.)
Start / Settings / Taskbar / Advanced
then check Expand Control Panel and close and go to
Start / Settings / Control Panel / Automatic Updates  and turn OFF Automatic
Updating
~~
4. Use ram memory rather than the swap file. (The system needs OVER 64 megs
of ram.)
Start / Search / Files  type and enter: "system.ini"  then click on it
and open it in Notepad and add this line after [386Enh] (without quotes)
"ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1"
~~
5. Set file system to cache about 20 times higher than its default
setting. Copy and paste these lines to Notepad and name the file
MaxCached.reg then click on MaxCached.reg from Windows Explorer and say
Yes you want to add that information to your registry. (You must
set Notepad to "all files" when you save it or it will save as text.)

-------------------------------- copy
below ----------------------------------
REGEDIT4


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS

"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00
------------------------------- to
above ------------------------------------
~~
6. Disable these settings in the start menu.
Start / Run  type and enter:  "Msconfig"
then click on Startup  and  UNCHECK PcHealth, StateMgr, SchedulingAgent
and Taskmon Then allow the system to reboot so all these changes will
take effect.
~~
7.  Run Windows Explorer and click on Tools / Folder Options / View and
select "Show hidden files and folders"  then  browse the c: drive and
delete the _Restore  folder.  Hold your shift key so it doesn't move it
to the recycle bin while you press del. This folder can have hundreds of
megs of temp files if you have been running ME for a while with the
system Restore and PC Health on. If you get an error message saying
there is a sharing violation you haven't successfully turned off Pc
Health and Restore. The _Restore folder should NOT appears again in the
future (unless you update a key Microsoft program like IE).
~~
8. See if anything unnecessary is running all the time.
Press CTRL + ALT + DEl  at the same time, after you have first booted
up and see what programs are loaded. You may find several programs running
that don't need to run all the time. Most of them, if actually needed, can
be loaded from the Start / Programs menu.
~~
9.  Don't let windows run HTA, SHS and VBS Script automatically.
Those file associations allow viruses to infect your system. Open
Windows Explorer and click Tools / Folder Options / File Types and
delete HTA, SHS and VBSscript. It is very unlikely a normal PC user
would need those file associations turned on.
~~
10. Disable "Automatic check for Windows Explorer updates"
From the IE "Tools" menu click on "Internet Options" then go to
"Advanced" and uncheck the 4th box.

--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>


I think that may be for system restore, there is a way to disable it.
 control panel/system/file system/troubleshooting / disable system restore

Mike Grandy

Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team

3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale



  I don't have WinME but, I've read that it has a feature that basically
takes a
  snapshot of your system state periodically, so that you can revert back to
it,
  if needed.  I don't recall what this feature is called, but I know that it
can
  be disabled.  Check your settings for WinME, and see if you can track that
down
  and disable it.

  Note: This is one of the new "improvements" that come with WinME.  This
  "feature" was not a part of Win95/98.

  Hope this helps........


  > That was my guess, too, Fes, so I set the VM to 175, min and max. I have
  > 128Mb RAM...this may or may not have started when I put Win ME in, I'm
not
  > sure, but even so, I'm closing everything down....
  > Free space: I have 2 HDs, well, 3 if you count that one's partitioned.
  > Windows is on  C:, N4's on D: with oodles of space left.
  >
  > --
  >
  > Colin
  > ICQ 25485061
  > Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/
  >


  > >

  > > >
  > > > Has anyone else had excessive hard disk activity when running a race
  > (online
  > > > or off) in N4? I use End It All, shut down everything, but almost
  > without
  > > > fail, midway thru a race, the ol' HD light starts blinking furiously
and
  > the
  > > > screen stutters.
  > > > If anyone has a clue what that is (I sort of expect it now, and make
  > sure
  > > > I'm nowhere near a wall..) I'd love to hear.
  > > > TIA!
  > >
  > >
  > > To the uneducated like myself, it sounds like VM thrashing.  How much
  > > RAM you have?  And how much free space/how large swap file do you
have?
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Fester

  --
  Bert

Colin Harri

N4: HD activity?

by Colin Harri » Sun, 20 May 2001 05:04:32

***y hell, that ought to fix it!

--

Colin
ICQ 25485061
Fast Food Racing: http://www.racesimcentral.net/


Tim Mise

N4: HD activity?

by Tim Mise » Sun, 20 May 2001 07:23:27

Maybe, but I have a hardtime believing the system restore always choose the
middle of a race to update itself.  System restore is suppose to update when
the computer is not in use.

-Tim


> The only thing we have in common then, Tim, is Win ME which sort of leans
> towards Mike's "System Restore" thingy. Think I'll try that next!

> --

> Colin
> ICQ 25485061
> Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/



> > Colin, that same exact thing happens to me too.  My system:

> > WinME
> > 1.33 Ghz Tbird
> > Abit KT7A-Raid (2 30gb 7200 rpm's in Raid-0 config)
> > 512 MB RAM

> > Usually about half way through a race, takes about 10-15 seconds or so
of
> > stuttering. (I hold my breath!)

> > I'll try the system.ini suggestion to see if that helps.

> > -Tim

ra301

N4: HD activity?

by ra301 » Sun, 20 May 2001 07:21:22

On Fri, 18 May 2001 10:25:53 GMT, "Colin Harris"


>The only thing we have in common then, Tim, is Win ME which sort of leans
>towards Mike's "System Restore" thingy. Think I'll try that next!

I had this problem all the time on my Celeron 466 (abit zm6 MB).  I
have since upgraded to a Duron 850 (abit ?? MB) and haven't had a
problem with it.
Tim Mise

N4: HD activity?

by Tim Mise » Sun, 20 May 2001 07:26:22

Then again, system restore is IMO the most valuable asset to WinMe.

-Tim


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