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> > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > ten laps or so ;-)

> 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car (for
> me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a lot, I
> dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking, especially
> when I mess up).

> > > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > > ten laps or so ;-)

> > 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car
(for
> > me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> > about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a lot,
I
> > dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking, especially
> > when I mess up).

> 1:04 so far. Best I've heard of at RSC is a 1:02, which sounds about
right.
> Don't shift more than you have to. 3rd gear is fine for some of those
slower
> corners. 4th through T1.

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> > > > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > > > ten laps or so ;-)

> > > 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car
> (for
> > > me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> > > about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a
lot,
> I
> > > dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking,
especially
> > > when I mess up).

> > 1:04 so far. Best I've heard of at RSC is a 1:02, which sounds about
> right.
> > Don't shift more than you have to. 3rd gear is fine for some of those
> slower
> > corners. 4th through T1.

> Sounds about right - I'm at pretty consistent 1:03's with some setup
> tweaking, at least when the tires are in good shape.  A 1:02 would be a
very
> good lap.  It took some more tweaking to figure out what to do to get
decent
> framerates with this sucker, too - the auto settings had it running like a
> slideshow.  Had to bail from the incar entirely and tweak the bumper cam
to
> get a centrally-located view since the***pit view takes the framerate
> below a stable level.  Same with RBR, which is even worse - I suppose the
> DX9 graphics are nicer in these new games, but I don't see enough payoff
to
> justify the huge performance hit.  You either have to turn off all the eye
> candy and lower the rez to the point that they look worse than older
games,
> or drop $300 on a video card so they can look marginally better.

> RFactor is very graphically demanding, even compared to GTR(demo); here
are
> some FRAPS numbers I took from doing a solo lap in the***pit and then
one
> from the bumper cam.  30FPS worse than GTR incar, and about 50 from the
> bumper view - even running at lower resolution!  I can run GTR at 12X9
with
> 2XAA/2XAniso acceptably well, even with nine*** AI - but not this new
> baby...

> GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (all graphics on full
> ingame)
> Avg: 72.875 - Min: 43 - Max: 88

> GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
> Avg: 101.479 - Min: 71 - Max: 145

> RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (ingame graphics
all
> on high except for low shadows)
> Avg: 41.779 - Min: 33 - Max: 57

> RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
> Avg: 53.893 - Min: 41 - Max: 78

> System: AMDXP2400/ABITKR7A at 280mhz/GFti4400(56.64) at 300:600mhz/256MB
> RAM/SBAUDIGY/WIN98SE

> > maybe it just means I should've been in bed two
> > hours ago

> Probably right. I set up the local server using "overcast" instead
> of dry, and that seems to give some very impressive lighting
> conditions.

> Andrew McP... off to bed ;-)

>  It took some more tweaking to figure out what to do to get decent
> > framerates with this sucker, too - the auto settings had it running like
a
> > slideshow.  Had to bail from the incar entirely and tweak the bumper cam
> to
> > get a centrally-located view since the***pit view takes the framerate
> > below a stable level.

> Yes, I'm not thrilled with the frame rate either on my P4 3.0 9700Pro.
It's
> the same whether I use***pit, hood, or bumper. Stays about 40-45 on high
> settings with 2x AA. That's fine, but I'd like it a lot higher. I'm
> sensitive to frame rates and get nauseous easily. :-p This isn't the final
> product, so maybe they will find some fps in the final release.
> --
> David G Fisher

> > 1:03.XXX here also with a little setup tweaking.

> Is this with the various aids/assistance turned on or off? The first thing
> I do in any game or sim is turn off all the
> traction/steering/braking/whatever assistance. With a game like this
> though I'm not sure which settings can realistically be left engaged.

> Andrew McP

> > 1:03.XXX here also with a little setup tweaking.

> Is this with the various aids/assistance turned on or off? The first thing
> I do in any game or sim is turn off all the
> traction/steering/braking/whatever assistance. With a game like this
> though I'm not sure which settings can realistically be left engaged.

> Andrew McP

>> You wren't seeing things. :-)

> Lol! Thanks for the reassurance :-) It's the kind of feature I would never
> have thought worth bothering with in a sim, but there are moments going
> round the track when the lighting looks *so* realistic it's amazing.

> Andrew McP

> PS While "talking" to you, after noting your comments in the political
> threads I think you'd appreciate the BBC documentaries I linked to
> elsewhere, http://***.hopto.org:6969/index.html?search=nightmare
> Now I've seen all three I'm even more convinced that -- while
> very contentious in some ways -- they're an important contribution to the
> ongoing political debate none of us can afford to ignore.