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by **Greg Cisk** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>No way was it a pirate. It was the demo actually (he says sheepishly!).
>Sorry!! So is that the only reason why your glad I don't like it!!!!!!

Franklly yes. I don't have time to*** around with people who
don't like the game. So if you wanted to sell it I was more than
willing to help out. As it is since you have the demo, you cannot
turn that stuff off. And the sound does suck as you say. The sound
is *MUCH* better in the real game after you go to manual shifting.
I hate the downshifting sound myself.

>Matt

>>Great I'm glad you don't like it. A friend of mine was asking
>>is anyone wants to sell their copy. So if you have an ENGLISH
>>copy, how about it? Are ya gonna sell it? I'm sure you didn't
>>pirate it, right?

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>>>Oh Yeah, LOOKS GREAT!!

>>>Sounds terrible and the car feels like it is a 15 tonne lorry!!
>>>GP2 anyday. Anyone actually got the cars to handle like GP2??? Can you
>>>turn traction control OFF!!!!

>>>MDWS

by **papa..** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Having also been in Karts for a time I believe that he really is just
defending GP2....

PAPA DOC

>Read his second post above. According to his experience with
>performance cars GP2 is more realistic. I don't know myself.
>--
>Nos

>http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Infamous
Pink Flamingo Pilot...

by **papa..** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Having also been in Karts for a time I believe that he really is just
defending GP2....

PAPA DOC

>Read his second post above. According to his experience with
>performance cars GP2 is more realistic. I don't know myself.
>--
>Nos

>http://www.cris.com/~nosfer/index.html

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Infamous
Pink Flamingo Pilot...

by **papa..** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Really John did Ubisoft release a demo....or did a Pirate Demo get out
on the net. Tell me did you see a difference in the official demo
released much later and the demo currently availible at Avault...

So do you think that the first demo was representative of the
product...?

Often I think it would be in the best interests of companies to NOT
release demo's...as so many features have to be turned off that NO
demo is a good representation of the product. The First Pirate Demo
was even MORE unrepresentative of the product.

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Infamous
Pink Flamingo Pilot...

by **Sean Ormon** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

> Often I think it would be in the best interests of companies to NOT
> release demo's...as so many features have to be turned off that NO
> demo is a good representation of the product. The First Pirate Demo
> was even MORE unrepresentative of the product.

I agree in a lot of cases. Just as a funny aside, a company I used to work
for released a demo, much to the consternation of those in development and
support. Unfortunately, Marketing's idea of a "demo" was everyone else's
idea of a very early, time-bombed beta. Another product they shipped with
it was a virtually unuseable alpha. Finally, to shoot themselves square in
the head, they charged $30.00 for this thing! <blam> Being the *** I
am, I went online to hear some feedback...hehe. Suffice to say, the alpha
and beta (which had already been superceded by vastly superior versions
in-house) became THE demo online, representative of the final product,
which no one intended to touch with a 10-foot pole. Three cheers for the
marketing weasels!

Oh well, something else to think about when you're playing demos.

Sean

by **Jon Petersso** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>I agree in a lot of cases. Just as a funny aside, a company I used to work
>for released a demo, much to the consternation of those in development and
>support. Unfortunately, Marketing's idea of a "demo" was everyone else's
>idea of a very early, time-bombed beta. Another product they shipped with
>it was a virtually unuseable alpha. Finally, to shoot themselves square in
>the head, they charged $30.00 for this thing!

Used to work for Microsoft, did you? ;-)

I thought they changed the name from "demo" to "release version", though.
;-)
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Jon Petersson

by **William Dahm** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

I agree completly. F1RS feels nothing like a real car, GP2 feels so
close its amazing. I have also gone back to GP2.

by **Greg Cisk** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>I agree completly. F1RS feels nothing like a real car, GP2 feels so
>close its amazing. I have also gone back to GP2.

Huh...

Are you looking to sell your copy of F1RS?

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by **Nosfera** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>Having also been in Karts for a time I believe that he really is just
>defending GP2....

>PAPA DOC

That's cool. Must be a good adrenaline rush. I'll be getting F1RS
anyway, as soon as it's available up here. I had the French demo when
it first came out and really liked it, although at that time it needed
tweeking. I'm dloading the newer English demo right now. I hear the CH
Pro pedals don't work properly in the initial version, but they do in
the latest 3DFX patch version. Wonder what will happen if I apply it
to the demo. I'll give it a go anyway.
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Nos

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by **papa..** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

hehe...thats not very nice...now. <VBG>

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Infamous
Pink Flamingo Pilot...

by **Nathan Wo** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>Why on earth do you think any company would release a demo's? Could it
>be so that people can form an opinion of what the whole game will be
>like and make an informed buying decision? So will consumers expect
>the demo to be representative of the full product?

What you forget is that the first demo out, and most readily available
too, is the pirated french one. Which is far from the finished game.
Even the English demo is different to the demo.
Many demos are NOT the same as the finished product.

If someone tried the Tomb Raider demo, and found the first level
included easy, do they skip the game because the whole game will be
that easy?

If someone tries the F1RS demo, but cant drive Monza, what about the
15 other tracks, and 10 other cars they can drive instead?

by **MDWS** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Excellent. Someone who agress!! I can't wait for GP3 - THE ULTIMATE!!

by **Greg Cisk** » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>If someone tries the F1RS demo, but cant drive Monza, what about the
>15 other tracks, and 10 other cars they can drive instead?

Beats me. But Monza in hte real game is very drivable. There is no
similarity between the game and the demo on this point.

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00

"It was the demo", he says.
Well, that just about says it all.

--
Bruce.
(At home)

by **Philip For** » Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>"It was the demo", he says.
>Well, that just about says it all.

>--
>Bruce.
>(At home)

Funny thing here people don't seem to think he can state an opinion
because he only has a DEMO!, very strange indeed.

I've got demos of programs and thank god I did and I've saved myself
a fair bit of money by not buying there rubbish IMHO if they can't present
a descent demo that will give an overall feel for the game don't release
one.

Ok I know they are not going to be totaly up to par but you can usualy get
the feel
if It's going to cut the mustard. Having said this I don't agree with his
post below.

As you now If demo is such as you can't adjust car setup then you can't make
a fair assesment of it, so instead of saying it handles like a 15 tonne
lorry!
well I guess it would without the correct setup so it should'nt be put down
for this.

BTW I think F1rs is really a good game I did'nt get the demo I just came on
over
to RAS and had a lurk around the messages read between the lines of peoples
comments then made a decision to go and buy, with no regrets :-)) Oh and yes
I was am a great fan of Gp2, but at the moment concentrating on F1rs.

Rgds Phil.

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