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The best PC simulator?

Diet Ric

The best PC simulator?

by Diet Ric » Tue, 24 May 2005 00:47:09

Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
computer game (for PC)?

I'm looking for a game that was developed with attention to actual
physical behavior of cars.

I remember that in my early ***s I used to play a game called "Need
for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
analysis on car physics.

I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
best ones?

Thanks.

Alan Bernard

The best PC simulator?

by Alan Bernard » Tue, 24 May 2005 01:12:17

GTR
GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
N2003 (Nascar 2003)
F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
LFS (Live for Speed)

Arcade.  Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.

Richard Burns Rally
Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)

These are all I can think of, off hand.

Alanb

Andi Col

The best PC simulator?

by Andi Col » Tue, 24 May 2005 03:02:37

Yes, what he said ;-)

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Tony Rickar

The best PC simulator?

by Tony Rickar » Tue, 24 May 2005 06:37:54

Yup, can't argue with that list of released sims. Though Mr. can't fly
without a hoover or whatever his name is will probably have something to
say...

"Andi Cole" wrote

> Yes, what he said ;-)

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> >> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
> >> computer game (for PC)?

> > GTR
> > GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
> > N2003 (Nascar 2003)
> > F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
> > LFS (Live for Speed)

> >> I remember that in my early ***s I used to play a game called "Need
> >> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
> >> analysis on car physics.

> > Arcade.  Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.

> >> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
> >> best ones?

> > Richard Burns Rally
> > Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)

> > These are all I can think of, off hand.

> > Alanb

Andrew MacPhers

The best PC simulator?

by Andrew MacPhers » Tue, 24 May 2005 13:49:00



> These are all I can think of, off hand.

Good list.

Personally I'd point people straight at the rFactor, LFS2(alpha), and
Richard Burns Rally demos.

http://www.liveforspeed.net/
http://www.gamershell.com/download_7496.shtml
http://www.gamershell.com/download_7164.shtml

GPL remains the mother of all racing sims, but it can be a bit complicated
to get it from its out-of-the-box state to something that looks halfway
decent.

Andrew McP

Andi Col

The best PC simulator?

by Andi Col » Wed, 25 May 2005 00:55:10

The GPL 2004 demo plus the tracks and stuff off your original CD works quire
well.

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>> These are all I can think of, off hand.

> Good list.

> Personally I'd point people straight at the rFactor, LFS2(alpha), and
> Richard Burns Rally demos.

> http://www.liveforspeed.net/
> http://www.gamershell.com/download_7496.shtml
> http://www.gamershell.com/download_7164.shtml

> GPL remains the mother of all racing sims, but it can be a bit complicated
> to get it from its out-of-the-box state to something that looks halfway
> decent.

> Andrew McP

Robin Lor

The best PC simulator?

by Robin Lor » Wed, 25 May 2005 06:33:01

I dunno I seem to remember the physics on the original NFS being fairly
decent for the time, but NFS2 onwards was arcade rubbish with the exception
of Porsche 2000/Unleashed

Agree with the rest though

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Diet Ric

The best PC simulator?

by Diet Ric » Wed, 25 May 2005 15:40:39

Thanks for the suggestions - already downloading the demos!

One more issue: which of the autosimulators is the most widely used to
record replays? I.e. people record replays, they're posted on a website
and a sort of league is created.

If anyone is into first-person shooters here, you may know of an online
project of "Quake speedrunning" - a huge database of Quake replays.
They have quite a community there - with records beaten all the time,
people having fun competing, admiring the most skilled and innovative.

The only similar project in autosims that I know of was created for a
Finnish (?) game "Motorhead". I remember it was fun to download those
replays recorded by gamers eager to beat records. BTW, joysticks were
used for most records, i.e. they were a better controller than keyboard
or steering wheel.

So what is the most active community of "autosim replays competition"
online?

Larr

The best PC simulator?

by Larr » Wed, 25 May 2005 22:15:18

I would add Viper Racing.

-Larry


> Yes, what he said ;-)

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>>> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
>>> computer game (for PC)?

>> GTR
>> GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
>> N2003 (Nascar 2003)
>> F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
>> LFS (Live for Speed)

>>> I remember that in my early ***s I used to play a game called "Need
>>> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
>>> analysis on car physics.

>> Arcade.  Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.

>>> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
>>> best ones?

>> Richard Burns Rally
>> Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)

>> These are all I can think of, off hand.

>> Alanb

mach

The best PC simulator?

by mach » Thu, 26 May 2005 04:11:53


I'd say, GPL, most likely, right?

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Kran

The best PC simulator?

by Kran » Thu, 26 May 2005 04:22:09

 > The only similar project in autosims that I know of was created for a
 > Finnish (?) game "Motorhead".
Close, Finland's neighbour Sweden. Digital Illusions CE AB (DICE)

Live for Speed without a doubt. And it has a advantage to other
competitions/ranks, you don't have to blindly believe the time posted,
the replays are downloadable to see for yourself.
http://www.liveforspeed.net/
http://www.lfsworld.net/

GTRank is pretty active too.
http://gtr.gplrank.info/

Byron Forbe

The best PC simulator?

by Byron Forbe » Thu, 26 May 2005 12:33:39

http://nrank.gplrank.info/

Nascar Racing 2003 (physics = GPL IV) + 5 mods here!

Winston Cup
Busch
Trucks
Ferrari 330
Tran Am
GTP


Alex Kihuran

The best PC simulator?

by Alex Kihuran » Sun, 29 May 2005 06:02:14

The very first NFS was actually relatively "sim" for its time...quite fun
too...

Thanks,
Alex


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