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GP3 to GP4

Mik

GP3 to GP4

by Mik » Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:46:59

Hi all
I have been away from sims for awhile. I started playing GP2 again &
like it so got GP3. I liked that too & saw GP4 on ebay cheap.
Put it on tonight & was disappointed by the sluggish behavior. I let
it do the auto graphics. That pretty much wiped out all trackside
objects.
I am running a 2GB P4 with 256MB mem & a Riva TNT 64 card (32mb mem )
I thought this would be enough but...............
Any tips?
Before anyone starts with junk it please realize I like GP I think
that I can be fine with GP3 but wanted to know what I could do to try
& make GP4 run better.
Is the TNT 64 card too slow? I have been thinking of getting a Radeon
9600 with theh 128mb of mem. Would that allow GP4 to move? Or is my
2GB CPU already a limiting factor for this sim?
Thanks for any help you may give.
Andre

GP3 to GP4

by Andre » Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:03:53


That card was too slow when it was released about 5 years ago.
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Fillyourboot

GP3 to GP4

by Fillyourboot » Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:23:28


> Hi all
> I have been away from sims for awhile. I started playing GP2 again &
> like it so got GP3. I liked that too & saw GP4 on ebay cheap.
> Put it on tonight & was disappointed by the sluggish behavior. I let
> it do the auto graphics. That pretty much wiped out all trackside
> objects.
> I am running a 2GB P4 with 256MB mem & a Riva TNT 64 card (32mb mem )
> I thought this would be enough but...............
> Any tips?
> Before anyone starts with junk it please realize I like GP I think
> that I can be fine with GP3 but wanted to know what I could do to try
> & make GP4 run better.
> Is the TNT 64 card too slow? I have been thinking of getting a Radeon
> 9600 with theh 128mb of mem. Would that allow GP4 to move? Or is my
> 2GB CPU already a limiting factor for this sim?
> Thanks for any help you may give.

Video card issues aside, iirc you need to turn off Anti-aliasing. Besides
which, you're better off with GP3 AND GP3-2000 add-on in comparison to GP4.

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Fillyourboots

Paulinh

GP3 to GP4

by Paulinh » Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:59:55



> > Hi all
> > I have been away from sims for awhile. I started playing GP2 again &
> > like it so got GP3. I liked that too & saw GP4 on ebay cheap.
> > Put it on tonight & was disappointed by the sluggish behavior. I let
> > it do the auto graphics. That pretty much wiped out all trackside
> > objects.
> > I am running a 2GB P4 with 256MB mem & a Riva TNT 64 card (32mb mem )
> > I thought this would be enough but...............
> > Any tips?
> > Before anyone starts with junk it please realize I like GP I think
> > that I can be fine with GP3 but wanted to know what I could do to try
> > & make GP4 run better.
> > Is the TNT 64 card too slow? I have been thinking of getting a Radeon
> > 9600 with theh 128mb of mem. Would that allow GP4 to move? Or is my
> > 2GB CPU already a limiting factor for this sim?
> > Thanks for any help you may give.

> Video card issues aside, iirc you need to turn off Anti-aliasing. Besides
> which, you're better off with GP3 AND GP3-2000 add-on in comparison to
GP4.

> ++
> Fillyourboots

I would disagree.. GP4 is far better :-p

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Mik

GP3 to GP4

by Mik » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:49:09


> Video card issues aside, iirc you need to turn off Anti-aliasing. Besides
> which, you're better off with GP3 AND GP3-2000 add-on in comparison to GP4.

> ++
> Fillyourboots

Thanks what is iirc? As for anti alias I thought that letting the sim
self pic which gave a low 14 fps was as good as it got?
Like I said I dont mind GP3 & it looks fine. I have heard of this 2000
add-on but not found it.
Where do I get/buy it?
Thanks for your help.
Mik

GP3 to GP4

by Mik » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:50:20



> >Is the TNT 64 card too slow?

> That card was too slow when it was released about 5 years ago.

Ahhhh ok ;) Well I had a hunch but it was at least better than my V2 ..lol
Thanks I will look into a new card too. Any suggestions $100 or less ?
Thanks
Remco Moe

GP3 to GP4

by Remco Moe » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:12:06


If I Recall Correctly

Cheers!

Remco

Fillyourboot

GP3 to GP4

by Fillyourboot » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:05:56




>> Video card issues aside, iirc you need to turn off Anti-aliasing.
>> Besides which, you're better off with GP3 AND GP3-2000 add-on in
>> comparison to GP4.

>> ++
>> Fillyourboots

> Thanks what is iirc? As for anti alias I thought that letting the sim
> self pic which gave a low 14 fps was as good as it got?
> Like I said I dont mind GP3 & it looks fine. I have heard of this 2000
> add-on but not found it.
> Where do I get/buy it?
> Thanks for your help.

I've got a patched back-up of GP3 2000 if you want it - drop me an email
with your details.

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Fillyourboots

Kasper Kowalsk

GP3 to GP4

by Kasper Kowalsk » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:37:50




> > >Is the TNT 64 card too slow?

> > That card was too slow when it was released about 5 years ago.

> Ahhhh ok ;) Well I had a hunch but it was at least better than my V2 ..lol
> Thanks I will look into a new card too. Any suggestions $100 or less ?
> Thanks

No offence, but if you want to play any game these days with decent
graphics, you have to be prepared to spend more than $100.

KK

Kasper Kowalsk

GP3 to GP4

by Kasper Kowalsk » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:40:51


That's with F1C. GP4 had no performance hit with FSAA on my Radeon, but
then, FSAA is much better on Radeon than Nvidia

GP4.

If you're one of those purists that wants physics above all else... as an
overall package, GP4 is much better. Eye candy just adds so much to the
game's atmosphere.

KK

jason moy

GP3 to GP4

by jason moy » Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:24:54


CPU is fine.  Your videocard is a huge bottleneck.

I'd recommend getting a Geforce 4 Ti4400/4600 as they're cheap now and
will run any current game fine.

Jason

Rich

GP3 to GP4

by Rich » Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:51:56

This is an interesting topic. I need a newer card as well since my Voodoo5
doesn't support N2003, F1-C, or NT2004.
I was always wondering what would be next in line to choose from because I
can't afford an ATI Radeon 9800 or 9700 vid card.
I'm beginning to think that FSAA is not as important as frame rates...so now
I'm just looking for good fps and compatibility with newer titles at a
reasonable price.



> >Is the TNT 64 card too slow? I have been thinking of getting a Radeon
> >9600 with theh 128mb of mem. Would that allow GP4 to move? Or is my
> >2GB CPU already a limiting factor for this sim?

> CPU is fine.  Your videocard is a huge bottleneck.

> I'd recommend getting a Geforce 4 Ti4400/4600 as they're cheap now and
> will run any current game fine.

> Jason

Mik

GP3 to GP4

by Mik » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:33:33

Interesting...I had been away for awhile So had thought a Radeon 9600
just by seeing what was popular on Ebay.
But the Geforce 4 has 128mb also at half the price. Is it pretty close
in performance?
Thanks


> >Is the TNT 64 card too slow? I have been thinking of getting a Radeon
> >9600 with theh 128mb of mem. Would that allow GP4 to move? Or is my
> >2GB CPU already a limiting factor for this sim?

> CPU is fine.  Your videocard is a huge bottleneck.

> I'd recommend getting a Geforce 4 Ti4400/4600 as they're cheap now and
> will run any current game fine.

> Jason

jason moy

GP3 to GP4

by jason moy » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:58:11


Anandtech did a review of the Radeon 9600 Pro.  It is sandwiched,
performance wise, in between the Geforce 4 Ti4200/Geforce FX 5600 and
the Radeon 9500 Pro.  The Geforce 4 Ti4600 is still faster in their
benchmarks.

Jason

Mik

GP3 to GP4

by Mik » Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:03:08

Thanks that info helps alot
I forgot about Anandtech. That was a great site I use to read.
Thanks again
Mike


> >Interesting...I had been away for awhile So had thought a Radeon 9600
> >just by seeing what was popular on Ebay.
> >But the Geforce 4 has 128mb also at half the price. Is it pretty close
> >in performance?

> Anandtech did a review of the Radeon 9600 Pro.  It is sandwiched,
> performance wise, in between the Geforce 4 Ti4200/Geforce FX 5600 and
> the Radeon 9500 Pro.  The Geforce 4 Ti4600 is still faster in their
> benchmarks.

> Jason


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