rec.autos.simulators

by **T. Wortm** » Sun, 27 May 2001 16:30:14

On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:37:13 GMT, RazorBird

>Just got back from Best Buy.
>Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks.

Find it hard to believe that Best Buy and CompUSA has this title a
week before EB. What's up with that?

So how is the in-truck vision in Leadfoot? Concerned that with the
tight turns in stadium racing you might need to run this one from a
different viewpoint. Driving outside the***pit view just seems
arcadish to me.

by **Olly Greenfiel** » Sun, 27 May 2001 17:02:24

Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of system
specs do you have ?
Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ?

Just got back from Best Buy.
Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks.

All I can say is WOW!
This feels like GPL in DIRT.
Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the
butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT.

The jumps alone will make your stomach flip.

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ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A
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VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY.
OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

by **Serial # 1978101** » Sun, 27 May 2001 20:08:18

Great FPS on my P3 800 at 1024x768 with all deatil on max, this game
really rocks :).

Tracks are really cool im not sure if they dig up as time goes by but
they sure are rough.

Hotdog

On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:02:24 GMT, "Olly Greenfield"

>Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of system
>specs do you have ?
>Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ?

Hotdog

by **Charlie** » Mon, 28 May 2001 00:07:02

I would rather see some National type races than just the indoor stadioum
races, but I guess thats what this game is all about. The only thing I dont
like is no shot of the track when choosing which track to rasce at next, and
the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like. . Fun
game just cant expect a-ton for $20.

Charlie B

> Great FPS on my P3 800 at 1024x768 with all deatil on max, this game
> really rocks :).

> Tracks are really cool im not sure if they dig up as time goes by but
> they sure are rough.

> Hotdog

> On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:02:24 GMT, "Olly Greenfield"

> >Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of
system
> >specs do you have ?
> >Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ?

> Hotdog

by **ymenar** » Mon, 28 May 2001 00:57:50

> the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like

Thanks Hans, I'll skip.

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by **Charlie** » Mon, 28 May 2001 04:51:56

Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do
indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor looing
tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that there
are many good things about this sim, especially for $20

Charlie

> > the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like

> Thanks Hans, I'll skip.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Slas** » Mon, 28 May 2001 08:20:41

On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:37:13 GMT, RazorBird

It also apparently doesn't like Win2k. :(

Woohoo! Finally, us Alaskans get in on something.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious" - The Onion

by **ymenar** » Mon, 28 May 2001 05:57:57

> Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do
> indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor
looing
> tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that
there
> are many good things about this sim, especially for $20

LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it
could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA
is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that"..

Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Mike Grand** » Mon, 28 May 2001 10:28:03

The tracks are nothing like Soda, this is definately worth the $20.

Mike Grandy

Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team

3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale

> Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do
> indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor
looing
> tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that
there
> are many good things about this sim, especially for $20

LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it
could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA
is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that"..

Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Bob Thurma** » Mon, 28 May 2001 14:18:47

The only problem with Ratbags games is that if I play on a LAN with someone,
we are the only 2 cars on the track. With DTR and DTR Sprints you can not
have AI cars in a LAN game. If this has not changed I'll have to pass.

buzard

Just got back from Best Buy.
Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks.

All I can say is WOW!
This feels like GPL in DIRT.
Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the
butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT.

The jumps alone will make your stomach flip.

DISCLAIMER
I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY
OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM.
ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A
PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE.
THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY.
OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

by **Charlie** » Mon, 28 May 2001 15:58:41

I raced w/ 8 tonight through GameSpy Arcade, all drivers had pings under 250ms. Ultra Light buggies are alot more fun than the trucks on these smaller trax. Sense of speed is nice. Gearing is tough. How many clutches you guys run? Multiplayer is excellent.

Charlie B

The tracks are nothing like Soda, this is definately worth the $20.

Mike Grandy

Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team

3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale

> Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do
> indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor
looing
> tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that
there
> are many good things about this sim, especially for $20

LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it
could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA
is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that"..

Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Alex Camero** » Mon, 28 May 2001 23:15:05

It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars jump
wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving
the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just
missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should come
up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't
want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun
but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics.

Just got back from Best Buy.
Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks.

All I can say is WOW!
This feels like GPL in DIRT.
Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the
butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT.

The jumps alone will make your stomach flip.

DISCLAIMER
I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY
OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM.
ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A
PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE.
THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY.
OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

by **Charlie** » Tue, 29 May 2001 01:31:41

I definetly agree w/ this. Brakes should affect it too.

Charlie B

> It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars
jump
> wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving
> the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just
> missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should
come
> up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't
> want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun
> but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics.

> Just got back from Best Buy.
> Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks.

> All I can say is WOW!
> This feels like GPL in DIRT.
> Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the
> butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT.

> The jumps alone will make your stomach flip.

> DISCLAIMER
> I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY
> OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM.
> ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A
> PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE.
> THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
> VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY.
> OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

by **G Patrick** » Tue, 29 May 2001 02:07:43

Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why
accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with
the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the
car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing
else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell
you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when
airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing.

More curious than anything else..

G Patricks

>It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars jump
>wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving
>the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just
>missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should come
>up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't
>want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun
>but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics.

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 29 May 2001 02:17:42

Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternate between
stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and where
they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact on the
inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating
masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is pretty
tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a
profound difference.
Oh yes...I remember Bultaco's and Maico's and Husky's. I got to ride
another Spanish marque..I think it was a Montessa...whoooo!
dave henrie

> Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why
> accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with
> the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the
> car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing
> else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell
> you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when
> airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing.

> More curious than anything else..

> G Patricks

> >It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars
jump
> >wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about
driving
> >the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just
> >missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should
come
> >up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I
don't
> >want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good
fun
> >but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics.

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