> Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why
> accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with
> the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the
> car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing
> else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell
> you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when
> airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing.

> More curious than anything else..

> G Patricks

> >It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars
jump
> >wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about
driving
> >the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just
> >missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should
come
> >up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I
don't
> >want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good
fun
> >but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics.

> > Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why
> > accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact
with
> > the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing
the
> > car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but
nothing
> > else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can
tell
> > you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do
when
> > airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing.

> > More curious than anything else..

> > G Patricks

> Ok Davie H now its ur turn!! How old are you cuz my first real
> un-professional race bike was a Bull & then a Husky. You cant
> be this old? aka 60s. Btw: you are "spot-on" about the spinning
> wheels in the air.. I'm impressed!! Not that I make a diff.. :o)

> |   Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing.  Those guys alternate
> between
> | stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and
where
> | they want to land.  Using the brakes should have a very big impact on
the
> | inflight attitude of the car.  After all, you have 4 very large rotating
> | masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is
pretty
> | tremendous.  soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a
> | profound difference.
> |   Oh yes...I remember Bultaco's  and Maico's and Husky's.  I got to ride
> | another Spanish marque..I think it was a Montessa...whoooo!
> | dave henrie

>   Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing.  Those guys alternate between
> stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and where
> they want to land.  Using the brakes should have a very big impact on the
> inflight attitude of the car.  After all, you have 4 very large rotating
> masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is pretty
> tremendous.  soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a
> profound difference.

> >   Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing.  Those guys alternate
between
> > stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and
where
> > they want to land.  Using the brakes should have a very big impact on
the
> > inflight attitude of the car.  After all, you have 4 very large rotating
> > masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is
pretty
> > tremendous.  soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a
> > profound difference.

> I think you mean inertia, not gyroscopic effect. The gyroscopic effect
> helps keep the *** side down, but it is the inertia of the wheels
> that gets transferred to the whole car when you use the brake and make
> it tip it's nose down.
> --
>   -asbjxrn

>   but isn't a gyroscope just a spinning wheel??
> Don't worry if I'm wrong...it won't be the last time..:)
> (i guess the gyroscope effect would be like TURNING the front wheel in mid
> air..and like you said the Inertia comes from stopping or not stopping a
> wheel's spin.-- is that closer to the truth?)