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Why N2, N99 SUCKS

Mulke

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Mulke » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Terrible graphics.
Slow rendering.
Herky jerky car physics.
Laughable AI.
Poor sensation of speed.
Poor support.
Archaic 3d engine.
Cars that fly around the track backwards at 800 mph.
Cars that slam on brakes on first lap coming out of turns.
Cars that bounce off the pit walls and go through them.
Cars that jump out of your way and let you pass every time.
Cars that never flip but just spinout upon hitting the wall at Tally at
180mph.
Cars that slam on brakes behind you upon entering pit lane if you don't pit
perfectly in the box.
Cars that sound like tonka toys.
Texture maps ala Castle Wolfenstein.
Cardboard cutouts for pit crew members which never move.
Cars that never bounce or sway.

Anyone care to add more reasons why the Papy NASCAR "sims" suck? Feel free.

Oh, and for those of you with your Papy-issued blinders on, feel free to
chime in.
I understand how insecure many of you would feel in a NASCAR sim world
where you don't have to modify every facet of the game just to make it
half-ass playable.

Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
February)

BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.

Target

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Target » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

What do you expect, the game's 2 years old.

Maybe that's only N99, because I've never seen it in N2

Well, duh, papy said the cars wouldn't flip in the game.

Again, never seen it happen

How do you know?  You drive a tonka?

Again, it's 2 years old.  Plus, I can't think of any game that has animated pit
crew and it looks good & realistic.

Randy Wilso

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Randy Wilso » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00


> Terrible graphics.

...<snip>...

Yeach,

Christmas TURKEY Droppings make REALLY BAD bait!

Hope Santa leaves a nice new copy of Sierra's "Complete Master Cook
Suite 5.0" in your stocking tomorrow :p

L. Andre Min

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by L. Andre Min » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

<snipperoosky of inane drivel>

Don't play it.  

Andre Ming

Zack Sandber

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Zack Sandber » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

If you can find a better sim on the market let me know.  everygame has it's
faults.  If you tell me your favorite game, il find stuff wrong with it too.
terrible graphics?
N99 has better graphics than many other games out there..

>Terrible graphics.
>Slow rendering.
>Herky jerky car physics.
>Laughable AI.
>Poor sensation of speed.
>Poor support.
>Archaic 3d engine.
>Cars that fly around the track backwards at 800 mph.
>Cars that slam on brakes on first lap coming out of turns.
>Cars that bounce off the pit walls and go through them.
>Cars that jump out of your way and let you pass every time.
>Cars that never flip but just spinout upon hitting the wall at Tally at
>180mph.
>Cars that slam on brakes behind you upon entering pit lane if you don't pit
>perfectly in the box.
>Cars that sound like tonka toys.
>Texture maps ala Castle Wolfenstein.
>Cardboard cutouts for pit crew members which never move.
>Cars that never bounce or sway.

>Anyone care to add more reasons why the Papy NASCAR "sims" suck? Feel free.

>Oh, and for those of you with your Papy-issued blinders on, feel free to
>chime in.
>I understand how insecure many of you would feel in a NASCAR sim world
>where you don't have to modify every facet of the game just to make it
>half-ass playable.

>Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
>February)

>BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.

Thomas Enterprise

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Thomas Enterprise » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00


> Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
> February)

> BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.

Its rather obvious why.
Gambler

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Gambler » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Yes I see the argument on AI behavior and how nr1999 didnt seem to reflect
what the users learned in
AI tweaking . But is there a better stock car sim out there ????
If there is please enlighten all of us . And btw N3 will allow you to "flip"
your car although the majority
of us concentrate on actually playing to "win" so flipping isnt an option I
necessarily need . <G>

Terrible graphics.
Slow rendering.
Herky jerky car physics.
Laughable AI.
Poor sensation of speed.
Poor support.
Archaic 3d engine.
Cars that fly around the track backwards at 800 mph.
Cars that slam on brakes on first lap coming out of turns.
Cars that bounce off the pit walls and go through them.
Cars that jump out of your way and let you pass every time.
Cars that never flip but just spinout upon hitting the wall at Tally at
180mph.
Cars that slam on brakes behind you upon entering pit lane if you don't pit
perfectly in the box.
Cars that sound like tonka toys.
Texture maps ala Castle Wolfenstein.
Cardboard cutouts for pit crew members which never move.
Cars that never bounce or sway.

Anyone care to add more reasons why the Papy NASCAR "sims" suck? Feel free.

Oh, and for those of you with your Papy-issued blinders on, feel free to
chime in.
I understand how insecure many of you would feel in a NASCAR sim world
where you don't have to modify every facet of the game just to make it
half-ass playable.

Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
February)

BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.

XCR6

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by XCR6 » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

<<Terrible graphics.

 I have a fix for ALL of these problems you describe,
Go to DOS , and type" del c:\sierra*.*, this should solve you complaints. or if
that doesnt work try going to dos, and typing, "format c:\"

<G> only kidding, dont try this at home folks

T

Mike Dun

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Mike Dun » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Mulkey,

please ..your post is very , very , bad. I disagree with you on every thing
you said. Go buy Daytona racing USA by sega, mabey that will make you happy.

Mike

pqt2

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by pqt2 » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Do you have anything constructive to say? You must have gotten the word Santa
wasn't dropping by your house this year!!:-) Paul

> Terrible graphics.
> Slow rendering.
> Herky jerky car physics.
> Laughable AI.
> Poor sensation of speed.
> Poor support.
> Archaic 3d engine.
> Cars that fly around the track backwards at 800 mph.
> Cars that slam on brakes on first lap coming out of turns.
> Cars that bounce off the pit walls and go through them.
> Cars that jump out of your way and let you pass every time.
> Cars that never flip but just spinout upon hitting the wall at Tally at
> 180mph.
> Cars that slam on brakes behind you upon entering pit lane if you don't pit
> perfectly in the box.
> Cars that sound like tonka toys.
> Texture maps ala Castle Wolfenstein.
> Cardboard cutouts for pit crew members which never move.
> Cars that never bounce or sway.

> Anyone care to add more reasons why the Papy NASCAR "sims" suck? Feel free.

> Oh, and for those of you with your Papy-issued blinders on, feel free to
> chime in.
> I understand how insecure many of you would feel in a NASCAR sim world
> where you don't have to modify every facet of the game just to make it
> half-ass playable.

> Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
> February)

> BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.

XIPRO

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by XIPRO » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00

<<Terrible graphics.
I Disagree graphics are fine.

Time for a new CPU?

Try a decent setup for the track your on.

I found them to be competitive.

Try a new vid card?

Have you tried sierra.com?

Really,? Didnt notice.

Have not seen this one.

Yes!, I agree they do do that and also when getting the green on restarts.

I wish!

Have you not heard,? NASCAR uses roof flaps now.

I have yet to discover this.

I wouldnt know the tonka toys I grew up with didnt make any noise.

huh?

Personally I would prefer not to have the wasted hard drive space for such
arcade like features.
That would be cool.

My replies.
Later
Mike Lee

Late Apex Racing
http://members.aol.com/xiprolx/nastour.html

Greg Cisk

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00


>Terrible graphics.

You are full of Bullshit.
holysmok..

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by holysmok.. » Fri, 25 Dec 1998 04:00:00


 Wow N-"99" sounds like fun!

 Matt

-Teehole

Quote: "Many games create the ultimate technological experience, but falter
when it comes to creating a compelling story to keep gamers interested".<<

Author:Tim Royal,Computer Games Strategy Plus.

Jerry Rodrigu

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by Jerry Rodrigu » Sat, 26 Dec 1998 04:00:00


I only know of the new Nascar Revolution by EA sports. I think that is the
correct name. The pit crew will jump the wall and service the car. Very nice
looking for sure. However, after being amazed by the graphics,  I realized the
cars must adhered to a whole new set of physic laws. Then again, it was a
limited demo.

Only time will tell.

Jerry

IFLY4DEL

Why N2, N99 SUCKS

by IFLY4DEL » Sat, 26 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I think that his problems are many...I will list a few:

1) He can't drive it, so he bashes the game.
2) He can't get it to work good with his 486-33 DX running Win 3.1.
3) He can't pit very well and blames it on AI.
4) He doesn't know there is a pit road speed.
5) He uses the keyboard and not a wheel/pedal.
6) He's probably from Brazil.

Anymore?  Probably.  I guess your entitled to your opinion, but you
had better get more complaints that those because they all sound like
you have a bad computer and you can't drive anyway.

Merry Christmas.

IFLY4DELTA on TEN


>Do you have anything constructive to say? You must have gotten the word Santa
>wasn't dropping by your house this year!!:-) Paul


>> Terrible graphics.
>> Slow rendering.
>> Herky jerky car physics.
>> Laughable AI.
>> Poor sensation of speed.
>> Poor support.
>> Archaic 3d engine.
>> Cars that fly around the track backwards at 800 mph.
>> Cars that slam on brakes on first lap coming out of turns.
>> Cars that bounce off the pit walls and go through them.
>> Cars that jump out of your way and let you pass every time.
>> Cars that never flip but just spinout upon hitting the wall at Tally at
>> 180mph.
>> Cars that slam on brakes behind you upon entering pit lane if you don't pit
>> perfectly in the box.
>> Cars that sound like tonka toys.
>> Texture maps ala Castle Wolfenstein.
>> Cardboard cutouts for pit crew members which never move.
>> Cars that never bounce or sway.

>> Anyone care to add more reasons why the Papy NASCAR "sims" suck? Feel free.

>> Oh, and for those of you with your Papy-issued blinders on, feel free to
>> chime in.
>> I understand how insecure many of you would feel in a NASCAR sim world
>> where you don't have to modify every facet of the game just to make it
>> half-ass playable.

>> Here's to one day having a true NASCAR sim. (Probably some time in
>> February)

>> BTW, I don't work for EA, Papy, Sega or any other game maker.


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