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Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

Craig Jon

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Craig Jon » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Ive read reports on the internet and heard opinions to the effect that
Grand Prix 2 is not really that dependant on the 2D card used, but more
concerned with the CPU power. Has anyone got a conclusive opinion about
this?

Thanks,

Craig

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Zonk

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Zonk » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Path:
>Ive read reports on the internet and heard opinions to the effect that
>Grand Prix 2 is not really that dependant on the 2D card used, but more
>concerned with the CPU power. Has anyone got a conclusive opinion about
>this?

>Thanks,

>Craig

Logic suggests that a Decent PCI Graphics card, will get a much higher speed
than an ISA  card.

As far as chipsets go, you may find better frame rates depending on the state
of the Vesa 2.0 graphics driver for DOS. Perhaps downloading Scitech Display
Doctor may help.

Z.

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Drake Christens

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Drake Christens » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

As with most high-powered games, your frame rate will be most affected by
the weakest component in your machine.  If you have a poor video card,
say a Trident-based card, you'll likely see a 10-20% penalty compared to
a Matrox Millenium in the same machine.  Getting that 20% back by buying
a faster CPU is a lot more expensive than getting a good video card.

OTOH, among decent video cards, say comparing a Millenium vs a Tseng
6000-based card, the difference is probably just a couple of percent.  
Among the good cards, any is Good Enough and your frame rate will scale
up closer to linearly with your CPU speed.

Speaking of DOS 2D, anyone know how the Riva TNT fairs?


David Mast

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by David Mast » Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>OTOH, among decent video cards, say comparing a Millenium vs a Tseng
>6000-based card, the difference is probably just a couple of percent.  
>Among the good cards, any is Good Enough and your frame rate will scale
>up closer to linearly with your CPU speed.

Seconding that, I tested GP2 with a few cards.  Basically, if you have any
decent recent card, the odds are, it'll perform the same in GP2.  I tried the
original Millenium, an ET6000, and an S3-864 based Diamond Stealth.
For all intents and purposed, they scored the same.  Later, I tested a
Stealth2, which is poor in DOS *VGA*.  In SVGA, it scored the same as the
other cards, ie well.  So, yes, once you have any recent/decent card, it's all
CPU.

>> Ive read reports on the internet and heard opinions to the effect that
>> Grand Prix 2 is not really that dependant on the 2D card used, but more
>> concerned with the CPU power. Has anyone got a conclusive opinion about
>> this?

>> Thanks,

>> Craig

Troy Thompso

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Troy Thompso » Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Definately CPU........I just upgraded my CPU & RAM  leaving the same 2d card & the
difference is massive

> Ive read reports on the internet and heard opinions to the effect that
> Grand Prix 2 is not really that dependant on the 2D card used, but more
> concerned with the CPU power. Has anyone got a conclusive opinion about
> this?

> Thanks,

> Craig

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Karl Zose

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Karl Zose » Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Drake Christensen heeft geschreven in bericht ...

This is bulshit!

GP2 makes no difference at all if you have an old 2MB S3 card or a brand new
TNT.

good framerates at Monaco.
Geoff Crammond wanted to impress us all with super graphics, when there were
still no 3D cards around. Unfortunately, it was unplayable with all detail
on. And for most of us still is...

Karl

Goy Larse

Is GP2 2D-card dependant?

by Goy Larse » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00


> Drake Christensen heeft geschreven in bericht ...
> >As with most high-powered games, your frame rate will be most affected by
> >the weakest component in your machine.  If you have a poor video card,
> >say a Trident-based card, you'll likely see a 10-20% penalty compared to
> >a Matrox Millenium in the same machine.

> This is bulshit!

> GP2 makes no difference at all if you have an old 2MB S3 card or a brand new
> TNT.

> good framerates at Monaco.
> Geoff Crammond wanted to impress us all with super graphics, when there were
> still no 3D cards around. Unfortunately, it was unplayable with all detail
> on. And for most of us still is...

Karl

You really should have read that post again, he said as long as you had
a reasonably good vid card, then the CPU was the most important, the old
S3 cards were actually pretty fast in DOS mode, but the Trident cards
were not, and with one of those in you PC it wouldn't have mattered how
fast CPU you had, but you're right in one thing, I still don't think
there are any regular home PC's that can run with all graphics on at
Monaco and stay below 100% occupancy

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy


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