rec.autos.simulators

by **David L. Coo** » Sat, 22 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Any good sim will have a controller setup program that can detect what you have
and assign it. GP3 attempts to do that with thier calibration option but it
simply does not work. My Force RS will not work with split axis and it seems
impossible to map shifting to any button over #4. I will not use single axis
pedals any more. If a game doesn't support separate pedals it (usually the demo)
goes in my recycle bin.

From what I've seen while cruising GP3 with the keyboard it looks pretty bad
graphically, but still looks like more fun than F1-2000 IMO. If anyone out there
has a control set that works for the Force RS and works with separate axis pedals
shoot it my way, if you don't mind.

And BTW - I always try before I buy. I did with GPL and bought it the day it hit
the shelves. Flamers don't waste your breath...

--David Cook

by **Martin 'donL' Kronhofman** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> I will not use single axis pedals any more.

Are you kidding? No split-axis in GP3?? What the hell did they do the
last years? Sounds to me that GPL had more features on board the they
it went gold than GPxx will have in the next 4 years :((

so long
donL

by **Alexander Mar** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> > I will not use single axis pedals any more.

> Are you kidding? No split-axis in GP3?? What the hell did they do the
> last years? Sounds to me that GPL had more features on board the they
> it went gold than GPxx will have in the next 4 years :((

> so long
> donL

split axis works without problems - even *** controllers... don't let the
anti-hype get you. It works like a dream.

by **Mrv** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Of course split axis works. It works quite well. Don't listen to all
the crap.

> > I will not use single axis pedals any more.

> Are you kidding? No split-axis in GP3?? What the hell did they do the
> last years? Sounds to me that GPL had more features on board the they
> it went gold than GPxx will have in the next 4 years :((

> so long
> donL

by **N..** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:45:56 +0200, "Alexander Marx"

If it's the same as GP2 then tell me how you choose the RZ axis for
brakes? That option was never in GP2 and my understanding is it's
exactly the same in GP3.
--
Nos

by **Rich** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:15:00 -0400, David L. Cook

>Any good sim will have a controller setup program that can detect what you have
>and assign it. GP3 attempts to do that with thier calibration option but it
>simply does not work. My Force RS will not work with split axis and it seems
>impossible to map shifting to any button over #4. I will not use single axis
>pedals any more. If a game doesn't support separate pedals it (usually the demo)
>goes in my recycle bin.

>From what I've seen while cruising GP3 with the keyboard it looks pretty bad
>graphically, but still looks like more fun than F1-2000 IMO. If anyone out there
>has a control set that works for the Force RS and works with separate axis pedals
>shoot it my way, if you don't mind.

>And BTW - I always try before I buy. I did with GPL and bought it the day it hit
>the shelves. Flamers don't waste your breath...

>--David Cook

this is why this game is a beta , just this is enough. geoff crammond
would never leave out the option for split access pedals,
plus the force-rs is one of the most widely used wheels.

this is a big beta, its got it written all over its gearbox, wait till
the 28th and we're sorted, this games gonna kick arse.

by **Loosa** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

You can bet that the same people who are complaining about their dissapointment
in the Beta version will dislike and nitpick the retail released version as
well. If you are predisposed to disliking something you will invariably find
the faults in it. No matter how good any sim released this year is, it will
take time to supplant GPL's "legend" even if that sim is in fact superior. But
over the next 2 years even the most diehard GPL fanatics will be won over by
the charms of GP3 or Nascar 4 or Nascar Heat or WSC or some other sim, because
they will be fresh unconquered territory,and those titles will slowly come to
dominate the discussions here.
Of course you will have the nitpickers who are in fact "closet" GP3 or Nascar4
lovers, playing the games moreso than even GPL, while continuing to gripe about
their secret new obsession here in RAS. It's just human nature.

by **Andre Warring** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

This is complete nonsense imho. If a sim comes out that is better and
more enjoyable than GPL, everybody will switch to that sim.

GP3 isn't being bashed because we are all GPL lovers and bash
everything 'because it's no GPL'. GP3 is in quite a lot of departments
a big letdown. Perhaps the warez version isn't the final, but even if
it isn't I'm affraid the final won't be very much different.
The warez version does have ff and split axis so I really don't think
it isn't the final version.

I like GP3 very much. I will absolutely buy it, for me it's well worth
the money, even if it is 'GP2 .5'. But... no way it will replace GPL,
GP3 is a nice change between the GPL sessions :)

Andre

by **Todd Sorense** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Please, stop proving his point.

> >You can bet that the same people who are complaining about their
dissapointment
> >in the Beta version will dislike and nitpick the retail released version
as
> >well. If you are predisposed to disliking something you will invariably
find
> >the faults in it. No matter how good any sim released this year is, it
will
> >take time to supplant GPL's "legend" even if that sim is in fact
superior. But
> >over the next 2 years even the most diehard GPL fanatics will be won over
by
> >the charms of GP3 or Nascar 4 or Nascar Heat or WSC or some other sim,
because
> >they will be fresh unconquered territory,and those titles will slowly
come to
> >dominate the discussions here.
> >Of course you will have the nitpickers who are in fact "closet" GP3 or
Nascar4
> >lovers, playing the games moreso than even GPL, while continuing to gripe
about
> >their secret new obsession here in RAS. It's just human nature.

> This is complete nonsense imho. If a sim comes out that is better and
> more enjoyable than GPL, everybody will switch to that sim.

> GP3 isn't being bashed because we are all GPL lovers and bash
> everything 'because it's no GPL'. GP3 is in quite a lot of departments
> a big letdown. Perhaps the warez version isn't the final, but even if
> it isn't I'm affraid the final won't be very much different.
> The warez version does have ff and split axis so I really don't think
> it isn't the final version.

> I like GP3 very much. I will absolutely buy it, for me it's well worth
> the money, even if it is 'GP2 .5'. But... no way it will replace GPL,
> GP3 is a nice change between the GPL sessions :)

> Andre

by **Marc Collin** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

How? It will not recognize an R or Z axis...just like every game that
doesn't properly support split axis.

Marc.

> > > I will not use single axis pedals any more.

> > Are you kidding? No split-axis in GP3?? What the hell did they do the
> > last years? Sounds to me that GPL had more features on board the they
> > it went gold than GPxx will have in the next 4 years :((

> > so long
> > donL

> split axis works without problems - even *** controllers... don't let
the
> anti-hype get you. It works like a dream.

by **Marc Collin** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hello!??!?!?! Wouldn't you need split axis support for beta testing? You
would need it for alpha testing, too. It is isn't a last minute add-on if
you have a physics model that actually can use it, which GP3 apparently does
not.

Marc.

by **Marc Collin** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Can we stop with this GPL crap. Everyone here would have been ecstatic if
GP3 had blown GPL out of the water in terms of quality and realism.
Period. It (at least the version 1.0 that is out now) barely registers
above GP2 on the radar. Sorry. Until something better is released, people
will continue to play and talk about GPL. If you don't like it, stop
reading a newsgroup dedicated to racing sims. Do you really think people
will obsess and spend lots of time on the low quality uninteresting not
rewarding titles in a forum like this?????

Marc.

by **David L. Coo** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

There's no Z axis. Do you have rememdy to this problem?

--David Cook

> Of course split axis works. It works quite well. Don't listen to all
> the crap.

> > > I will not use single axis pedals any more.

> > Are you kidding? No split-axis in GP3?? What the hell did they do the
> > last years? Sounds to me that GPL had more features on board the they
> > it went gold than GPxx will have in the next 4 years :((

> > so long
> > donL

by **Andre Warring** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

And how did I prove his point?

Andre

>> >You can bet that the same people who are complaining about their
>dissapointment
>> >in the Beta version will dislike and nitpick the retail released version
>as
>> >well. If you are predisposed to disliking something you will invariably
>find
>> >the faults in it. No matter how good any sim released this year is, it
>will
>> >take time to supplant GPL's "legend" even if that sim is in fact
>superior. But
>> >over the next 2 years even the most diehard GPL fanatics will be won over
>by
>> >the charms of GP3 or Nascar 4 or Nascar Heat or WSC or some other sim,
>because
>> >they will be fresh unconquered territory,and those titles will slowly
>come to
>> >dominate the discussions here.
>> >Of course you will have the nitpickers who are in fact "closet" GP3 or
>Nascar4
>> >lovers, playing the games moreso than even GPL, while continuing to gripe
>about
>> >their secret new obsession here in RAS. It's just human nature.

>> This is complete nonsense imho. If a sim comes out that is better and
>> more enjoyable than GPL, everybody will switch to that sim.

>> GP3 isn't being bashed because we are all GPL lovers and bash
>> everything 'because it's no GPL'. GP3 is in quite a lot of departments
>> a big letdown. Perhaps the warez version isn't the final, but even if
>> it isn't I'm affraid the final won't be very much different.
>> The warez version does have ff and split axis so I really don't think
>> it isn't the final version.

>> I like GP3 very much. I will absolutely buy it, for me it's well worth
>> the money, even if it is 'GP2 .5'. But... no way it will replace GPL,
>> GP3 is a nice change between the GPL sessions :)

>> Andre

by **David L. Coo** » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Dan - Nascar Heat might just steal the spotlight for a while here in RAS. You'll
definitely want to put it on your list. I expect N4 will unseat it come November
because of it's superior network code, etc. but for a while IMHO NH will
dominate.

--David Cook

> WSC and NASCAR 4 to me look like very interesting games
> and if they turn out to be realistic in physics (which I believe they will)
> I will buy it without a doubt.

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