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Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

Ped Xin

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Ped Xin » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:42:37



I'm not even running full details in the game!

Let's see, I'm using the 40.72 drivers, no FSAA.  Oh, I do have "Force 8
sample Anisotropic Filtering" enabled.  Does this really cause such a big
performance hit?  I will have to turn it off and see.

I know I should be getting much better performance so it is bothering me,
but all other games run great.

jon

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by jon » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:10:43

:)
Had to ponder that for a minute...




> > "jon" wrote...
> > > I saw a copy of Nascar 4 in Target for $45 about a month
> > > or two ago. Was it P.T. Barnum who said there is a sucker
> > > born every minute?

> > Actually, don't know where I got this from, but, apparently, he never
> said
> > it.

> > Jan.
> > =---

> LOL, kind of ironic that everybody believes he did...

RDS

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by RDS » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:38:58

<SNIP>>

Yup Can-Am definitely, I can almost hear those big blocks now.

Bob

Steve Blankenshi

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Steve Blankenshi » Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:34:11

For what it's worth, the 40.72's were ***for me(on 98SE); buggy with lousy
IQ.  I had gone back to the 30.82's, but just loaded the newest 41.09's last
night and got a nice bump in speed and IQ, with no bugs seen as of yet.
Best Nvidia drivers I've tried to date.

8X aniso filtering will definitely impact your framerate.  Try lower AF
settings, 16 bit color, and/or different combo's of AA and resolution.  AA
is a big hit, particularly at 4X and above.  4X works very well in OpenGL
with NR2002 and GPL, but it's a killer in F1-2002 with D3D.  You can often
get better FPS by going as high as 16X12 and leaving AF off.  You just have
to twiddle with it until you find your happy medium.

SB




> > Aside from the usual cautions about not overdoing it with AA and
> > Aniso, check your settings for shadows in the game's graphics menu.
> > Running shadows on full really seems to kill the FPS for some reason,

> I'm not even running full details in the game!

> Let's see, I'm using the 40.72 drivers, no FSAA.  Oh, I do have "Force 8
> sample Anisotropic Filtering" enabled.  Does this really cause such a big
> performance hit?  I will have to turn it off and see.

> I know I should be getting much better performance so it is bothering me,
> but all other games run great.

Haqsa

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Haqsa » Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:52:46

Make that 3 votes for Can-Am.  Rudest, nastiest, most brutal
pavement-ripping sports cars ever.  ;o)


Alison Hin

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Alison Hin » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 03:52:24

Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP?  I've got a
GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a
PowerLeap adapter).

I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002
occasionally).  So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce
driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better.

Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU
upgrade?  1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one
that runs on a 100 mhz FSB.  Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR
memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now.

Thanks!

Alison

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:34:11 -0500, "Steve Blankenship"


>For what it's worth, the 40.72's were ***for me(on 98SE); buggy with lousy
>IQ.  I had gone back to the 30.82's, but just loaded the newest 41.09's last
>night and got a nice bump in speed and IQ, with no bugs seen as of yet.
>Best Nvidia drivers I've tried to date.

>8X aniso filtering will definitely impact your framerate.  Try lower AF
>settings, 16 bit color, and/or different combo's of AA and resolution.  AA
>is a big hit, particularly at 4X and above.  4X works very well in OpenGL
>with NR2002 and GPL, but it's a killer in F1-2002 with D3D.  You can often
>get better FPS by going as high as 16X12 and leaving AF off.  You just have
>to twiddle with it until you find your happy medium.

>SB

Alison


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Ed Whit

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Ed Whit » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:47:02


> Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP?  I've got a
> GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a
> PowerLeap adapter).

> I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002
> occasionally).  So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce
> driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better.

> Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU
> upgrade?  1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one
> that runs on a 100 mhz FSB.  Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR
> memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now.

> Thanks!

> Alison


>         ________
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>      _/__________\_
>    /_ \  '===='  / _\
>   |(_)    ____    (_)|
>   |\o [] (____) [] o/|
>   |   ---______---   |
>   '---'          '---'


64m, and GTR2002 runs pretty well for me....I'm also using a tweaker for the
vid card to o'clock it some(core to 235mhz, memory to 400 mhz) and under d3d
options, mipmapping is set to "Blend".....what I found, which makes no
sense, is that there is no fps penalty for higher resolutions, I found this

produces nice graphics at 50-60 fps, which is plenty for smooth feel, but
most graphics options are set to low, and of course, no AA or anisotropic.
If I leave all other settings alone, and redo 3D setup at 640 or 800, I get
no higher fps as a result,and these low rez's with either AA or aniso kill
frames......so far, my best all around setup is 1600x1200 as described.
PS ver28.32 drivers for the card, and Win XP Pro

^^^^^^I swiped the above from a previous post of mine, it's all still true,
as to your driver question, I used the 23.11v drivers previously on this
rig, and saw no real improvement with the 28.32's, I might just have to
revert back and try them again.
As far as upgrades go, you should NEVER take upgrade advice from me, unless
you're spending someone else's money.
One last thing, THANKS again for the Sweet Red Candy setups, they made GPL
come alive for me and really got me hooked, and in a previous post someone
else mentioned that you were probably the one person who could get the net
code in GTR worked out to make it actually usable......no pressure or
anything :^)
Ed

Ped Xin

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Ped Xin » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:18:01



http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_41.09

frederickso

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by frederickso » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:19:28




> > Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP?  I've got a
> > GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a
> > PowerLeap adapter).

> > I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002
> > occasionally).  So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce
> > driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better.

> > Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU
> > upgrade?  1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one
> > that runs on a 100 mhz FSB.  Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR
> > memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now.

> > Thanks!

> > Alison



Alison, i just built a system recently for pretty cheap. You can get a
motherboard for an Athlon XP that will use SDRAM.
I got the Gigabyte GA7-ZXE for $57 and an Athlon 1800+ for $74, it works
great, and you can just drop your SDRAM right in. (and pick up 256 megs more
for around 30 bucks) By the way I used tcwo.com which is in the top 10 on
reseller ratings. (i live near them so i went and picked it up)
karkraz

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by karkraz » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:09:01


I like the 21.83 drivers.  The GF2 doesn't really benefit from the
latest drivers much.  They are optimized for the GF3 and GF4.

I use to have a Celeron 450 a year ago.  I bought a K7S5A plus an
Athlon.  This mobo, can use DDR as well as my old SDR SDRAM.  Just
plugged in my old HD, video, etc.  and that was it.  I'm sure it's
much cheaper now.  You might even see combo deals for the
K7S5A+AthlonXP1700 for under $100.  Plus with this setup you can
upgrade up to an AthlonXP 2400+ and use DDR in the future.  

--
karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

wojt

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by wojt » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:29:02

Go to www.nvidia.com download the latest official driver (WHQL) for XP
(40.xx) - the new drivers are usually much faster than the XP default
one!

Damien Smit

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Damien Smit » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:13:31

Very true.  The default GeForce driver supplied with Windows XP is
exceptionally slow and doesn't support OpenGL.

Jussi 'Igor' Koukk

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Jussi 'Igor' Koukk » Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:23:09


wrote something like this:

All 1.4GHz Celerons run at 100MHz FSB, but your motherboard doesn't
support the new Celerons with Tualatin core...
--
- Igor -

Joe6

Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

by Joe6 » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:56:54

Has anyone seen a really good F1 2002 price in Canada?

Joe62


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