I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem to
hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a human
driver. Any comments?
>I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem to
>hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a human
>driver. Any comments?
Andre
> >If there is one thing that is ruining this sim for me, it's the way the
> >inside AI cars will always smash into you coming out of T4 if you're high
> >outside. In watching the replays (helicopter view), I see the cars swing
> >right into me even though I'm hugging the wall, and it's always T4 where
it
> >happens. Why can't the AI drivers see you there and avoid plowing into
you?
> >I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem to
> >hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a
human
> >driver. Any comments?
> Yes, next time mention which game and which track you're talking about
> :)
> I assume N4.. The AI really has it's problems there. I hardly dare to
> pass them on the low side, very often they just smack into me when I'm
> on the low side. I agree, AI is not really good in N4 :(
> Allthough it must be much harder to make a good AI for a Nascar game
> than for GPL, with the close racing, pitstops and yellow flags..
> Andre
Yes. I thought Nascar Heat was bad, but N4 is even worse. I can't
finish a rece because of it. Sometimes it's my fault too, but that's
due to lack of situational awareness.
--
Jagg
| On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:09:30 GMT, "Brian Carabee"
|
| >If there is one thing that is ruining this sim for me, it's the way the
| >inside AI cars will always smash into you coming out of T4 if you're high
| >outside. In watching the replays (helicopter view), I see the cars swing
| >right into me even though I'm hugging the wall, and it's always T4 where
it
| >happens. Why can't the AI drivers see you there and avoid plowing into
you?
| >
| >I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem to
| >hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a
human
| >driver. Any comments?
| >
| >
|
| Yes. I thought Nascar Heat was bad, but N4 is even worse. I can't
| finish a rece because of it. Sometimes it's my fault too, but that's
| due to lack of situational awareness.
| --
| Jagg
B
> >If there is one thing that is ruining this sim for me, it's the way the
> >inside AI cars will always smash into you coming out of T4 if you're high
> >outside. In watching the replays (helicopter view), I see the cars swing
> >right into me even though I'm hugging the wall, and it's always T4 where
it
> >happens. Why can't the AI drivers see you there and avoid plowing into
you?
> >I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem to
> >hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a
human
> >driver. Any comments?
> Yes. I thought Nascar Heat was bad, but N4 is even worse. I can't
> finish a rece because of it. Sometimes it's my fault too, but that's
> due to lack of situational awareness.
> --
> Jagg
I have noticed that the problem is a little worse at California than at
Daytona. But it exists everywhere.
B
> | On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:09:30 GMT, "Brian Carabee"
> |
> | >If there is one thing that is ruining this sim for me, it's the way the
> | >inside AI cars will always smash into you coming out of T4 if you're
high
> | >outside. In watching the replays (helicopter view), I see the cars
swing
> | >right into me even though I'm hugging the wall, and it's always T4
where
> it
> | >happens. Why can't the AI drivers see you there and avoid plowing into
> you?
> | >
> | >I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem
to
> | >hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a
> human
> | >driver. Any comments?
> | >
> | >
> |
> | Yes. I thought Nascar Heat was bad, but N4 is even worse. I can't
> | finish a rece because of it. Sometimes it's my fault too, but that's
> | due to lack of situational awareness.
> | --
> | Jagg
Sorry Brian I believe I did not make myself clear. I race many lines on the
two tracks {I have raced so far in N4} but I was addressing the issues of
the AIs seemingly slamming into you {the player driver} as "Jagg" posted.
So I was only saying *I can & do* race N4 {Offline} all the way around
3-wide without any problems on the outside as I *Hug the Wall* or shall
I say not yet at least..lol... I hope I've made this a "tad" clearer?..
Cheers Thom_j.
| You race around the entire track against the wall? Doesn't that adversely
| affect your performance?
|
| I have noticed that the problem is a little worse at California than at
| Daytona. But it exists everywhere.
|
| B
|
|
|
| > I havent raced many tracks yet but I have run outside on Daytona & Tala
| > many races with no AI problems. Odd? I do run tightly against the wall
in
| > all turns & straights tho'.. I wonder if that makes any difference in
for
| N4
| > knowing where I am for the AIs?? Watchya think??
| > Thom_j.
| >
| > | On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:09:30 GMT, "Brian Carabee"
| > |
| > | >If there is one thing that is ruining this sim for me, it's the way
the
| > | >inside AI cars will always smash into you coming out of T4 if you're
| high
| > | >outside. In watching the replays (helicopter view), I see the cars
| swing
| > | >right into me even though I'm hugging the wall, and it's always T4
| where
| > it
| > | >happens. Why can't the AI drivers see you there and avoid plowing
into
| > you?
| > | >
| > | >I really think the AI needs some substantial work. The cars just seem
| to
| > | >hold their line with almost complete disregard for the presence of a
| > human
| > | >driver. Any comments?
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Yes. I thought Nascar Heat was bad, but N4 is even worse. I can't
| > | finish a rece because of it. Sometimes it's my fault too, but that's
| > | due to lack of situational awareness.
| > | --
| > | Jagg
| >
| >
|
|
Yea, that may be it. I run the inside on the turns. That's where the
best line is. That's where I keep getting wiped out too. :-)
--
Jagg
You'll never win that way though.
--
Jagg
| spoke:
|
| >
| >Sorry Brian I believe I did not make myself clear. I race many lines on
the
| >two tracks {I have raced so far in N4} but I was addressing the issues of
| >the AIs seemingly slamming into you {the player driver} as "Jagg" posted.
| >So I was only saying *I can & do* race N4 {Offline} all the way around
| >3-wide without any problems on the outside as I *Hug the Wall* or shall
| >I say not yet at least..lol... I hope I've made this a "tad" clearer?..
| >Cheers Thom_j.
|
| You'll never win that way though.
| --
| Jagg
| spoke:
|
| >I havent raced many tracks yet but I have run outside on Daytona & Tala
| >many races with no AI problems. Odd? I do run tightly against the wall in
| >all turns & straights tho'.. I wonder if that makes any difference in for
N4
| >knowing where I am for the AIs?? Watchya think??
|
| Yea, that may be it. I run the inside on the turns. That's where the
| best line is. That's where I keep getting wiped out too. :-)
| --
| Jagg
Oh geez, no wonder you race on the outside. Some of those online
people are worse than the AI.
--
Jagg
| spoke:
|
| >Again Jagg, I was only addressing your comment of AIs not winning but I
do
| >win at 94% now on the oustide {on&off} but soon I will be cranking it up
to
| >about 100% or more. Mostly I prefer online racing tho' Cya at the races!
:o)
|
| Oh geez, no wonder you race on the outside. Some of those online
| people are worse than the AI.
| --
| Jagg
OK, I'll try N4 online one of these days. I used to play N3 online,
but I really did find there were more mishaps than by playing against
the computer AI. And the online races were too short too. I even
joined a league, but never made it to the actual races.
--
Jagg
