rec.autos.simulators

by **Ken MacKa** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

With all the "sub 9:00 at the Ring" posts lately, would anyone be
interested in sub 9:00 list at GPLRank? I don't mean a list containing
everyone with a sub 9 (as one could simply look at the track times) but
rather a list of those who have recently posted a sub 9, say the last 25
people to do so. And perhaps similar lists could be produced for the
other track benchmarks (say sub 1:30 at Monza, sub 1:07 at the Glen,
etc.). For me anyway, it feels great to hit one of these milestone's.
If there's enough interest maybe Uwe could include this in GPLRank the
next time he gets bored.

Not that I'm tired of all the "sub 9:00 at the Ring" posts; I hope to be
posting my own some day soon. :)

Ken MacKay
Halifax, Canada
GPL Handicap +95.55

by **Joachim Blu** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hi!

Hmm, thinking about that, I suggest a "milestone"-list which can only be encountered if you sub those milestones on all original tracks. However, these laptimes have to be discussed then. Here are my suggestions:

KY - 1:21
MC - 1:28
ZV - 1:26
SP - 3:20
RO - 1:58
SS - 1:28
NR - 8:30
MS - 1:22
MZ - 1:30
WG - 1:06
MX - 1:53

Of course, I'm currently _not_ below these times on all tracks ;)).
Let's see other suggestions...

Regards
Crash

by **Coli** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I think the point of the milestones is to give drivers an easier goal that
the Papyrus benchmark.
I think your times are a little too close to the benchmark.
What about these times...
They are deliberately set as first goals for beginners.

KY - 1:25
MC - 1:30
ZV - 1:30
SP - 3:25
RO - 2:00
SS - 1:30
NR - 9:00
MS - 1:25
MZ - 1:30
WG - 1:07
MX - 1:55

These times are easier than the Papy benchmark and should be eventually
attainable by most.
More suggestions anyone?
...Colin

by **Don Scurlo** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

There are currently 516 people that are below 9:00 at the Ring.
You can use Multiply Choice Hell to isolate the Track, then if you want
you can isolate for chassis and/or country also.
--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
GPLRank -3.51

Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site
http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

by **David Butte** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

Interesting, but a bit up-and-down in terms of difficulty, I'd say. AS
far as I can see, it's *far* easier to do a sub-1:30 at Monza
(especially on GPLRank, which allows "slipstreamy" race laps) than it
is to do a sub-1:28 at Monaco.

(FYI, I'm below those "benchmarks" only at the Glen, Monza, Mexico and
Spa.)

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: +19.68)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

by **A Thoma** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hey Ken , I see that handicap of yours has dropped to 95.5 . Do me a favour
and take it easy for a while . Put your feet up , take a holiday or take up
golf . Having put some work in to pass you , I don't want you coming back
and overtaking me again :-)

Funnily enough , I was thinking the other night that it would be good to
have a list of people who've posted sub 9's at the Ring . It would give the
members some sense of pride and those outside something extra to aim for .

Possible Uwe?

Andrew

by **Eldre** » Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:00:00

>I think the point of the milestones is to give drivers an easier goal that
>the Papyrus benchmark.
>I think your times are a little too close to the benchmark.
>What about these times...
>They are deliberately set as first goals for beginners.

>KY - 1:25
>MC - 1:30
>ZV - 1:30
>SP - 3:25
>RO - 2:00
>SS - 1:30
>NR - 9:00
>MS - 1:25
>MZ - 1:30
>WG - 1:07
>MX - 1:55

Hey - I've actually *beat* a couple of those:Kyalami, Zandvoort, Spa. But
that's it...

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL hcp. +70.45

Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

by **Ken MacKa** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> Hey Ken , I see that handicap of yours has dropped to 95.5 . Do me a favour
> and take it easy for a while . Put your feet up , take a holiday or take up
> golf . Having put some work in to pass you , I don't want you coming back
> and overtaking me again :-)
> <snip>

I plan on taking a little "holiday" at Spa this weekend, and then maybe to Rouen
next week, and then an extended stay at Nordschleife the first week in August.
<vbg>. Then I think I'll put this hot lapping stuff to rest for awhile and get
back to the real fun: VROC.

--
Ken MacKay
Halifax, Canada
GPL Handicap +95.55

by **Ken MacKa** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> I think the point of the milestones is to give drivers an easier goal that
> the Papyrus benchmark.
> I think your times are a little too close to the benchmark.
> What about these times...
> They are deliberately set as first goals for beginners.

> KY - 1:25
> MC - 1:30
> ZV - 1:30
> SP - 3:25
> RO - 2:00
> SS - 1:30
> NR - 9:00
> MS - 1:25
> MZ - 1:30
> WG - 1:07
> MX - 1:55

> These times are easier than the Papy benchmark and should be eventually
> attainable by most.
> More suggestions anyone?
> ...Colin

It'll be hard to set benchmarks to make everyone happy. In some cases the Papy
times are reasonable for a beginner, but some seem impossible. Perhaps it
would be good to have two sets of benchmarks, one geared towards beginners,
and one for the faster people. Another way of setting the times is to take the
time of the person at a certain percentage of the rank for each track For
example using 60%:

KY - 909 records x 0.6 = position 545 -> 1:22.78
MC - 896 records x 0.6 = position 537 -> 1:32.17
ZV - 894 records x 0.6 = position 536 -> 1:28.83
SP - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 3:24.27
RO - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 2:02.52
SS - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 1:31.00
NR - 854 records x 0.6 = position 512 ->8:57.96
MS - 878 records x 0.6 = position 527 -> 1:25.58
MZ - 929 records x 0.6 = position 557 -> 1:29.54
WG - 915 records x 0.6 = position 549 -> 1:06.74
MX - 858 records x 0.6 = position 515 -> 1:53.93

Its interesting that these times come close to what Colin suggested and it may
be easier to round off to even seconds (e.g. the Ring to 9:00, WG to 1:07,
etc.) . A similar method could be used to pick benchmarks for the pros, say
using 30% to set the times.

Ken MacKay
Halifax, Canada
GPL Handicap +95.55

PS I began to use the %Rank to evaluate my abilities relative to the GPL
community after became depressing to see my rank position fall every day. A
week ago I was at 534 out of 691 = 77.3 %. That same handicap today would be
617/816 = 75.61%. If your percentage was below 50% you could say with some
credibility that you were a faster than average GPL driver. :-) I've noticed
that without changing my handicap, my ranking as a percentage tends to get
better as more slower people join below me to compensate for the ones passing
me. Just another way of looking at it I guess.

by **Uwe Schuerka** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, quite possible. I'll give it a thought or two over the
weekend. Cheers,

Uwe

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by **SKur** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Personally, I am not competing against the others in GPLRank. I don't care where
I stand on the list. All I care about is my handicap. Currently at 6.67 i
think. My goal... 0 with ALL chassis... likely impossible lol but i'll keep
trying

Martyn_D

> > I think the point of the milestones is to give drivers an easier goal that
> > the Papyrus benchmark.
> > I think your times are a little too close to the benchmark.
> > What about these times...
> > They are deliberately set as first goals for beginners.

> > KY - 1:25
> > MC - 1:30
> > ZV - 1:30
> > SP - 3:25
> > RO - 2:00
> > SS - 1:30
> > NR - 9:00
> > MS - 1:25
> > MZ - 1:30
> > WG - 1:07
> > MX - 1:55

> > These times are easier than the Papy benchmark and should be eventually
> > attainable by most.
> > More suggestions anyone?
> > ...Colin

> It'll be hard to set benchmarks to make everyone happy. In some cases the Papy
> times are reasonable for a beginner, but some seem impossible. Perhaps it
> would be good to have two sets of benchmarks, one geared towards beginners,
> and one for the faster people. Another way of setting the times is to take the
> time of the person at a certain percentage of the rank for each track For
> example using 60%:

> KY - 909 records x 0.6 = position 545 -> 1:22.78
> MC - 896 records x 0.6 = position 537 -> 1:32.17
> ZV - 894 records x 0.6 = position 536 -> 1:28.83
> SP - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 3:24.27
> RO - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 2:02.52
> SS - 900 records x 0.6 = position 540 -> 1:31.00
> NR - 854 records x 0.6 = position 512 ->8:57.96
> MS - 878 records x 0.6 = position 527 -> 1:25.58
> MZ - 929 records x 0.6 = position 557 -> 1:29.54
> WG - 915 records x 0.6 = position 549 -> 1:06.74
> MX - 858 records x 0.6 = position 515 -> 1:53.93

> Its interesting that these times come close to what Colin suggested and it may
> be easier to round off to even seconds (e.g. the Ring to 9:00, WG to 1:07,
> etc.) . A similar method could be used to pick benchmarks for the pros, say
> using 30% to set the times.

> Ken MacKay
> Halifax, Canada
> GPL Handicap +95.55

> PS I began to use the %Rank to evaluate my abilities relative to the GPL
> community after became depressing to see my rank position fall every day. A
> week ago I was at 534 out of 691 = 77.3 %. That same handicap today would be
> 617/816 = 75.61%. If your percentage was below 50% you could say with some
> credibility that you were a faster than average GPL driver. :-) I've noticed
> that without changing my handicap, my ranking as a percentage tends to get
> better as more slower people join below me to compensate for the ones passing
> me. Just another way of looking at it I guess.

by **Don Scurlo** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Go Ken Go! Team Canada needs some serious help in the Nations Cup.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
GPLRank -3.51

Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site
http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

by **SKur** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

+) i there ta help the canucks too!!

jus registered this week

GPLRank +6.67
Martyn_D

> >I plan on taking a little "holiday" at Spa this weekend, and then
> >maybe to Rouen next week, and then an extended stay at Nordschleife
> >the first week in August.
> ><vbg>. Then I think I'll put this hot lapping stuff to rest for
> ><awhile and get
> >back to the real fun: VROC.

> >--
> >Ken MacKay
> >Halifax, Canada
> >GPL Handicap +95.55

> Go Ken Go! Team Canada needs some serious help in the Nations Cup.

> --
> Don Scurlock
> Vancouver,B.C.
> GPLRank -3.51

> Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site
> http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/

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