rec.autos.simulators

> To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of any
> sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and
error
> type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j.

> | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night
> |
> | Some tips for me maybe?  Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net
> | connection.
> |
> | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl and
> was
> | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and ran a
> | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa and
> | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on
how
> to
> | make N4 look good would be appreciated.
> |
> | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off  any tips on
> controller
> | use?
> |
> | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a
vroc
> | (gpl) type software to find races.
> |
> | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline
for
> a
> | while so I hope to hear your thoughts.
> |
> | Dave Ciemny
> |
> |
> |
> |

> N4 has pretty awesome built in mulitplayer capabilities. Be sure and get
the
> patch, as it improves it substantially.
> Your going to want good framerates, especially for online play. Your not
> going to want to drop below 30 fps for online play. I would think you
would
> get better results running in d3d with that V5. Turn the world detail
> setting way down in N4. It seems to have a large impact on framerates, and
> still looks very good even with it turned way down.
> I use a TSW2, and have my linearity set to 60%, and run fairly high wheel
> locks at most tracks. You'll want to experiement with these 2 settings to
> see what works best for you.
> As far as feeling the center may be a bit off, your probably talking about
> the pull to the left which is a result of the stagger ( set by the game),
> castor and camber. It helps the car turn in the turns, but will give you a
> pull to the left down the straight.

> --
> Don Burnette
> D Burnette in N4

> Some people do nothing wrong.
> The problem is, they do nothing.
> And THAT is wrong.

> > To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of any
> > sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and
> error
> > type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j.

> > | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night
> > |
> > | Some tips for me maybe?  Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net
> > | connection.
> > |
> > | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl
and
> > was
> > | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and ran
a
> > | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa
and
> > | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on
> how
> > to
> > | make N4 look good would be appreciated.
> > |
> > | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off  any tips on
> > controller
> > | use?
> > |
> > | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a
> vroc
> > | (gpl) type software to find races.
> > |
> > | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline
> for
> > a
> > | while so I hope to hear your thoughts.
> > |
> > | Dave Ciemny
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |

> Thanks Don...I think I spend too much time in the '67 GP cars :o)))

> Dave C.


> > N4 has pretty awesome built in mulitplayer capabilities. Be sure and get
> the
> > patch, as it improves it substantially.
> > Your going to want good framerates, especially for online play. Your not
> > going to want to drop below 30 fps for online play. I would think you
> would
> > get better results running in d3d with that V5. Turn the world detail
> > setting way down in N4. It seems to have a large impact on framerates,
and
> > still looks very good even with it turned way down.
> > I use a TSW2, and have my linearity set to 60%, and run fairly high
wheel
> > locks at most tracks. You'll want to experiement with these 2 settings
to
> > see what works best for you.
> > As far as feeling the center may be a bit off, your probably talking
about
> > the pull to the left which is a result of the stagger ( set by the
game),
> > castor and camber. It helps the car turn in the turns, but will give you
a
> > pull to the left down the straight.

> > --
> > Don Burnette
> > D Burnette in N4

> > Some people do nothing wrong.
> > The problem is, they do nothing.
> > And THAT is wrong.

> > > To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of
any
> > > sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and
> > error
> > > type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j.

> > > | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night
> > > |
> > > | Some tips for me maybe?  Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net
> > > | connection.
> > > |
> > > | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl
> and
> > > was
> > > | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and
ran
> a
> > > | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa
> and
> > > | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts
on
> > how
> > > to
> > > | make N4 look good would be appreciated.
> > > |
> > > | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off  any tips on
> > > controller
> > > | use?
> > > |
> > > | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a
> > vroc
> > > | (gpl) type software to find races.
> > > |
> > > | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be
offline
> > for
> > > a
> > > | while so I hope to hear your thoughts.
> > > |
> > > | Dave Ciemny
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |

> <snip>
> > I promise you
> >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track!

> >  Charlie B

> Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at
> Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I
> could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push
> like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot..
> Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49..

> Andre

>   ANYONE can string together hot laps for awhile...well I've heard of
folks
> who can that is....but TIRE MANAGEMENT is a big part of Nascar type
racing.
> But we all know this isn't much of an issue in GPL so I'm thinking we will
> see more than a few hotshoes having trouble with longer races.
> dave henrie

> > <snip>
> > > I promise you
> > >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track!

> > >  Charlie B

> > Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at
> > Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I
> > could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push
> > like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot..
> > Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49..

> > Andre

> That's another bad thing about pick-up races.  99% of them are too short
for
> tire management, fuel management or flag management to make a difference
:(

> I wish Papy had a dedicated server set up to run 40 or 50% races wilth
full
> features enabled.  That would be my home.

> -Larry

> >   ANYONE can string together hot laps for awhile...well I've heard of
> folks
> > who can that is....but TIRE MANAGEMENT is a big part of Nascar type
> racing.
> > But we all know this isn't much of an issue in GPL so I'm thinking we
will
> > see more than a few hotshoes having trouble with longer races.
> > dave henrie

> > > <snip>
> > > > I promise you
> > > >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track!

> > > >  Charlie B

> > > Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at
> > > Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I
> > > could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push
> > > like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot..
> > > Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49..

> > > Andre

> > That's right. Surprised that Papyrus didn't include the 2x,4x,8x
> > accelleration feature that F12000, and some others, had. All the online
> > races I've participated in are <25%, I haven't had to pit once. Takes
out
> > the strategic element that NASCAR needs, and N4 is well equipped to
> provide-
> > with an accelleration option. I think it would separate the men from the
> > boys- in every sense.:-).

> It doesn't.  Try doing 60 laps at Daytona UNDER YELLOW.  I've done it and
> it's the worst hour and a half I've ever spent.  Even more than any other
> kind of race, you have to have good drivers to make it work.  Take out the
> yellows, and you'll have 1 car 5 laps ahead of the next car which is 5
laps
> ahead of the next car etc. which isn't really racing but driving in
circles
> for fun.

>     -Phasor