rec.autos.simulators

by **Janus Ya** » Fri, 16 May 1997 04:00:00

Hi,

I have been waiting for this game for so long.
I was expecting it to be another game for voodoo-based
3d card owner. But I heard that it's not running
smooth even on a P200 :(

But I read it few days ago : (from PSYGNOSIS web site)

...
PC game enthusiasts will be amazed at the realism and speed of
Formula 1. While the game will run on a P90 machine with accelerator
cards, it has been optimized as a showcase game for faster processing
computers with the recommended machine being a P133 with 16 megs of
RAM memory.

Gamers having 3D accelerator cards in their pentiums will truly
benefit. Formula 1 literally races on Diamond Monster 3D? and
Orchid Righteous 3D? accelerator cards (native 3Dfx support
through Glide technology)
...

Have anyone seen this game running on a low-end Pentium yet ? (with
Voodoo of course).

Thanks.

by **James Dunph** » Sun, 18 May 1997 04:00:00

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Just got it tonight. I'm running a P90, 24MB, Diamond 3240 2MB video card.
It runs so so. Not as good as GP2. But interesting!!
--
Jim Dunphy

My GP2 page: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/4211/gp2.html

home page: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/4211/index.htm

Racing Photos and Sims (Grand Prix 2,Nascar,Nascar 2,Indycar Racing 2)

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by **Nick Ridl** » Sun, 18 May 1997 04:00:00

>Just got it tonight. I'm running a P90, 24MB, Diamond 3240 2MB video card.
>It runs so so. Not as good as GP2. But interesting!!
>--
>Jim Dunphy

>My GP2 page: http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>home page: http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>Racing Photos and Sims (Grand Prix 2,Nascar,Nascar 2,Indycar Racing 2)

I disagree. Frame rate is as good as GP2 for 3dfx on a P133 (I was
getting 18 fps under automatic in SVGA for GP2) and the graphics are
of course a lot better.

The two games are very different. Don't believe ALL the ***you're
hearing about F1 though - it seems that some people are just had much
higher expectations of it than others. I was not expecting Scud Racer
for the PC so I wasn't disappointed. It compares favourably with the
PlayStation version as far as I can see.

Nick

----- Nick Ridley -----

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Kris** » Sun, 18 May 1997 04:00:00

I believe the people getting poor performance are running the wrong
EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each for
a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The
VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the name
is deceiving.

KrisPY

by **Rob Jame** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

> I believe the people getting poor performance are running the wrong
> EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each for
> a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The
> VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the name
> is deceiving.

> KrisPY

Nope. I'm running f1win.exe, the 3dfx version, and while the frame-rate
looks arounf 30fps it STUTTERS! It make the game unplayable :(
Oh - i have a P200MMX 32MnEDO, Orchid R3D.

I just played GP2 after it and I think GP2 is superior in EVERY
department. The cars in GP2 are far far better looking and the
track appears to ruch by you at the correct speed.

In F1 the track textures sometime appear to stop and even flow backwards
. F1 sucks and it needs fixing bad.

Rob

by **Nancy Korkes Guerrero, M.Ed** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

so there's a rendition version of this game???

by **BigDav** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

> >Hi,

> >I have been waiting for this game for so long.
> >I was expecting it to be another game for voodoo-based
> >3d card owner. But I heard that it's not running
> >smooth even on a P200 :(

> >But I read it few days ago : (from PSYGNOSIS web site)

> >...
> >PC game enthusiasts will be amazed at the realism and speed of
> >Formula 1. While the game will run on a P90 machine with accelerator
> >cards, it has been optimized as a showcase game for faster processing

> >computers with the recommended machine being a P133 with 16 megs of
> >RAM memory.

> >Gamers having 3D accelerator cards in their pentiums will truly
> >benefit. Formula 1 literally races on Diamond Monster 3D? and
> >Orchid Righteous 3D? accelerator cards (native 3Dfx support
> >through Glide technology)
> >...

> >Have anyone seen this game running on a low-end Pentium yet ? (with
> >Voodoo of course).

> >Thanks.

> I believe the people getting poor performance are running the wrong
> EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each for

> a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The
> VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the name
> is deceiving.

> KrisPY

3Dfx has mentioned there may be a driver problem. I said "maybe"
because I haven't confirmed it. They are supposedly working on it
now....

BD

by **Nick Ridl** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

>Are you saying 18fps is good??? (P133 w/64mb w/Monster3D) If I dont get 28+
>I dont play it.

As someone who has forked out a load of cash on a 3dfx card too, it's
fair to say that I would HOPE that any 3d accelerated game runs really
quickly. Despite having a P133 I don't get frame rates of 28fps +
even in GlQuake, but I still play it 'cos it looks damn good. Thus
when F1 comes out and the frame rate is not arcade perfect I have an
option of returning the game or playing it. I'm happy to play it
because I played GP2 a lot with a similar frame rate and still enjoyed
that. I played F1 on the PlayStation with worse graphics but a
similar frame rate, and enjoyed that too.

18fps is not brilliant, but the it's best I can get without forking
out for a faster processor. Us PC owners have been surviving with a
lot less for ages. Do you bump the detail up and lose speed, or play
in a tiny window and have fluidity. I was making that choice today
playing Shadow Warrior. As far as I see it having a 3d card allows me
to run things with all the detail on max, plus a few extra effects,
for the kind of frame rate I'd have probably got in 640x480 with all
the fx off.

I'm not saying 18 fps is good, I'm just saying that it's been good
enough for us in the past, so don't write off this game without trying
it. Unaccelerated Interstate 76 anyone ?

Nick
----- Nick Ridley -----

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Kris** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

On Sun, 18 May 1997 19:02:24 +0100, Rob James

>> I believe the people getting poor performance are running the wrong
>> EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each for
>> a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The
>> VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the name
>> is deceiving.

>> KrisPY

>Nope. I'm running f1win.exe, the 3dfx version, and while the frame-rate
>looks arounf 30fps it STUTTERS! It make the game unplayable :(
>Oh - i have a P200MMX 32MnEDO, Orchid R3D.

>I just played GP2 after it and I think GP2 is superior in EVERY
>department. The cars in GP2 are far far better looking and the
>track appears to ruch by you at the correct speed.

>In F1 the track textures sometime appear to stop and even flow backwards
>. F1 sucks and it needs fixing bad.

>Rob

Dunno what to tell ya. I have a P200 MMX, 32 mb SDRAM, Diamond
Monster. Smooth as silk and very impressive. I've not played GP2 yet,
though I've got it ordered. Something is def wrong with your setup,
might be something very simple. Hope you can figure it out and enjoy
this game.

KrisPY

by **Kris** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

On 18 May 1997 18:14:14 GMT, "Nancy Korkes Guerrero, M.Ed."

>so there's a rendition version of this game???

>> I believe the people getting poor performance are running the wrong
>> EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each for
>> a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The
>> VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the name
>> is deceiving.

>> KrisPY

All the versions ship in the same package. To utilize the rendition
cards it gives instructions for loading a particular set of drivers
that come with the game, drivers may not be the right word, but it has
particular code you must place to use rendition. The other three
formats all have their own exe file. :)

KrisPY

by **Wood** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

Are you saying 18fps is good??? (P133 w/64mb w/Monster3D) If I dont get 28+
I dont play it.

|
|I disagree. Frame rate is as good as GP2 for 3dfx on a P133 (I was
|getting 18 fps under automatic in SVGA for GP2) and the graphics are
|of course a lot better.
|
|The two games are very different. Don't believe ALL the ***you're
|hearing about F1 though - it seems that some people are just had much
|higher expectations of it than others. I was not expecting Scud Racer
|for the PC so I wasn't disappointed. It compares favourably with the
|PlayStation version as far as I can see.
|
|Nick
|
|----- Nick Ridley -----

|http://www.racesimcentral.net/
|

by **Minh L** » Mon, 19 May 1997 04:00:00

> > I believe the people getting poor performance are running the
> wrong
> > EXE file for their particular 3D card. There are three EXE's, each
> for
> > a diff card and a set of drivers to load manually for rendition. The

> > VooDoo version is called f1win.exe or something like that .. the
> name
> > is deceiving.

> > KrisPY

> Nope. I'm running f1win.exe, the 3dfx version, and while the
> frame-rate
> looks arounf 30fps it STUTTERS! It make the game unplayable :(
> Oh - i have a P200MMX 32MnEDO, Orchid R3D.

> I just played GP2 after it and I think GP2 is superior in EVERY
> department. The cars in GP2 are far far better looking and the
> track appears to ruch by you at the correct speed.

> In F1 the track textures sometime appear to stop and even flow
> backwards
> . F1 sucks and it needs fixing bad.

> Rob

I totally agree with you here. I was REALLY trying to like Formula1 but
I just found all the shortcomings of this game to much to bear. The lack
of "good" steering wheel support, the bad car models (GP2 really beats
Formula1 in this department), and the fact that the game slows down at
several "complex" points in the track resulting in this time warp effect
(ala GP2). I guess the hopes of playing a good F1 simulator soon with
FAST graphics will have to wait till GP3... (which is all the more
reason for me to install a chryogenic chamber in my ba***t).

by **ari..** » Tue, 20 May 1997 04:00:00

Very Disappointing on a P200MMX using the correct drivers and running
the correct .exe. I have to reduce draw distance to get a reasonable
frame rate.

by **ccorpor** » Tue, 20 May 1997 04:00:00

R:

On a P133 with GLquake you should be getting 30 fps at 640x480 and 40 fps at
512x384. The majority play at 512 with the extra 10 frames. If your not in the
ball park here you have a problem.

R:

If this is all F1 gives you then Psygnosis really is trying hard to make a
crappy game. They've been working on this project for a long long time. For
the longest of time it was silky smooth, but somehow the gold master musta
been a copy of an early alpha version. What happened?

This game is really sounding like crap.

No***pit.
No network.
No performace.

What else is left? This is a slap to Psygonosis.

And no you should be doing just fine with a P133 and voodoo.

Us PC owners have been surviving with a

R:

Hmmm.. Shadow Warrior as far as I know has absolutley now connections to a 3d
accelerator.

18 frames suck. I'm sorry but it sucks.

Q.B.M.

by **ccorpor** » Tue, 20 May 1997 04:00:00

Before:

After:

THEREAFTER:

I'm expecting some type of reply from 3dfx. Again this program was heavily
totuted as being silky smooth and graphically gourgeuos at full detail to
P133'ers on up.

Q.B.M.

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