rec.autos.simulators

>> I think your being a little unreasonable, a simple analog joystick
>> would do
>> the job, even second hand would cost about $5-$10

>> keyboards aren't for sims :)

>> Ash
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> But you see, I already have a simple analog joystick, Ashley. ;)

> I just map the throttle and brake to the two buttons on it. Give NASCAR
> Heat a try with a joystick(cudos to it's dev's), they've gotten it down
> to a near science.

> It's a terrible habit from NASCAR Racing 2, yet it's how I'm comfortable
> with driving in any sim with this wretched thing. :)

> -Will

>>I just map the throttle and brake to the two buttons on it. Give NASCAR
>>Heat a try with a joystick(cudos to it's dev's), they've gotten it down
>>to a near science.

> Yeah I'm sure the 10 people in the world pushing a button on their joystick
> to accelerate must love Nascar Heat.  Trust me, there's a _reason_ for that.
> For Papy, it is more important to have a safer and more regulated online
> racing presence then to take the chance of completely obliterating that by
> having a toggle for that option.  You know, the average gamer _is_ stupid,
> and he would be enough stupid to turn it off, even if that means being a
> more dangerous driver.

> Anyway, just buy a set of pedals and Y-connector them to the joystick.

> Kudos to Papy for standing on their motorsport values.

> Now I understand...user error on your part has screwed your own enjoyment.

> No problem, Will.  Different people want different things out of the games they
> play.  And while your 'joystick challenge' is interesting, it wouldn't really
> prove anything.  Most people who use a wheel now would have problems
> re-adjusting to a joystick *anyway*...
> And honestly - I've forgotten what you said was forced on when using a
> stick...sorry.<blush>

> Eldred

> > I think your being a little unreasonable, a simple analog joystick would
do
> > the job, even second hand would cost about $5-$10

> > keyboards aren't for sims :)

> > Ash
> > http://www.siroccoracing.com

> But you see, I already have a simple analog joystick, Ashley. ;)

> I just map the throttle and brake to the two buttons on it. Give NASCAR
> Heat a try with a joystick(cudos to it's dev's), they've gotten it down
> to a near science.

> It's a terrible habit from NASCAR Racing 2, yet it's how I'm comfortable
> with driving in any sim with this wretched thing. :)

> -Will

> I understand you have got into the habit, but i promise you that you will
> love these games so much more if you bite the bullet and go fully analogue.
> I'd suggest really going for it and getting a wheel, they have really came
> down in price recently.

> All the best,
> Ash
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>I don't know how you ever got into that habit.  Even in the days of yore when
>I used a joystick for
>my racing games,  forward and back were always accel/brake, so it is always
>assigned to an analog
>control.  Who assigns throttle/brake to buttons on an analog joystick besides
>you?  You are the only
>person I have heard of(I'm sure there are others that do so no need to spout
>off now) that assigns
>throttle/brake to buttons on their joystick instead of of forward and back.
>That would be like
>assigning dive and climb to joystick buttons in a flight sim....

> Not spouting off<g>, but I can give you a reason why.  For me, it was
> impossible to maintain good braking/throttle control using the forward/backward
> axis.  When I'd go into the turns, I'd be unable to control my braking
> correctly.  I know that some can do it fine - I couldn't.

> Eldred

>> Now I understand...user error on your part has screwed your own
>> enjoyment.

> Care to explain to me how it's "user error" on my part, please?

>>>I think your being a little unreasonable, a simple analog joystick would

> do

>>>the job, even second hand would cost about $5-$10

>>>keyboards aren't for sims :)

>>>Ash
>>>http://www.siroccoracing.com

>>But you see, I already have a simple analog joystick, Ashley. ;)

>>I just map the throttle and brake to the two buttons on it. Give NASCAR
>>Heat a try with a joystick(cudos to it's dev's), they've gotten it down
>>to a near science.

>>It's a terrible habit from NASCAR Racing 2, yet it's how I'm comfortable
>>with driving in any sim with this wretched thing. :)

>>-Will

> I understand you have got into the habit, but i promise you that you will
> love these games so much more if you bite the bullet and go fully analogue.
> I'd suggest really going for it and getting a wheel, they have really came
> down in price recently.

>> I understand you have got into the habit, but i promise you that you will
>> love these games so much more if you bite the bullet and go fully
>> analogue.
>> I'd suggest really going for it and getting a wheel, they have really
>> came
>> down in price recently.

>> All the best,
>> Ash
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> You're right, I did love the Papy games with my wheel. But after the
> paddle I used for throttle broke, coupled with the horrible and tiny
> pedals I got with it, my only real option was to revert back to a
> joystick (and thank god for my love of flight sims, otherwise I'd be in
> worse shape :).

> Really, it's the only reason I'm ***ing is because I can see some of
> the problems of "non-standard" contollers with this particular series of
> game.

> OT, if all goes well locally in available jobs (recently, there hasn't
> been /anything/ open) I should have a el-cheapo wheel from the first
> paycheck. Or I'll hold off a few weeks and get a TSW. I'm still up in
> the air about it.

>> OT, if all goes well locally in available jobs (recently, there hasn't
>> been /anything/ open) I should have a el-cheapo wheel from the first
>> paycheck. Or I'll hold off a few weeks and get a TSW. I'm still up in
>> the air about it.

> A TSW? And I thought you were broke!

> Gerry

> Ash, this guys is just going to whine.

> Gerry

>>> OT, if all goes well locally in available jobs (recently, there
>>> hasn't been /anything/ open) I should have a el-cheapo wheel from the
>>> first paycheck. Or I'll hold off a few weeks and get a TSW. I'm still
>>> up in the air about it.

>> A TSW? And I thought you were broke!

>> Gerry

> Hey, Mr. Attitude, which part of the message didn't you understand? Do I
> really need to break it down sentence by sentence for you to comprehend
> it all? Here, let me help you.

> "OT, if all goes well locally in available jobs (recently, there hasn't
> been /anything/ open)"

> Just about anyone would understand that this would mean that while I,
> Will, am not working at the moment I will soon be going back out to
> look. Maybe I, Will, will get lucky if there are any jobs available
> locally.

> "I should have a el-cheapo wheel from the first paycheck."

> This means that upon getting my first paycheck, if I can find anything
> for work, I will spend it on a cheap wheel.

> "Or I'll hold off a few weeks and get a TSW. I'm still up in the air
> about it."

> This means that my other option instead of buying a cheap wheel, I'll
> wait and save up money to buy a TSW.

> Therefore, Gerry Aitken, yes I am broke. Any questions?

> -Will