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http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Have someone tried it?
As good as it looks?

Martin

Daz

Andi.

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It is good, but not as good as a (red) Momo Force. With few original
Momo's available now the TMF1FF would be a good buy I guess.

I originally bought one, the wheel unit was incredibly sturdy & felt
like it was built to last, but after 3 weeks the base of the pedal unit
(thin plastic) broke near the hinge point for the throttle stopping the
throttle from working.

Also, the Force Feedback was appalling with the supplied software.
Upgrading to the later version from the TM website the FF was excellent,
but the profiler software was buggy as hell & I never got it to work
properly in the 3 weeks that I had it.

When the pedal broke I returned it for a refund, bought a Momo Force &
haven't looked back since. The only thing I preferred about the TM wheel
was that the shifter paddles were one solid bar, meaning that you could
click forwards & backwards on either side to change gear. With the Momo
the paddles are split so you have to pull back on each side. Not a major
benefit, and provided you place the pedals on a hard surface (rather
than carpet) they would probably be fine too.

Malc.

Martin.

But no gas/brake levers, right?

Martin.

It would have been nice to be able to assign them (both) to the clutch,
but you can't assign them separately from the pedals. If you could it
would be a killer selling point but there you go. The TM has two extra
buttons & a hat too, but again it's not a major selling point over the
Momo for me.

Malc.

Martin.

Haven't tried the racing but at seems the FF is every bit as good as the
red momo, but it lacks the steel roller bearings & metal bracing inside
so won't be as rugged.

The paddles are plastic not aluminium too and can apparently break if
you aren't careful.

It's probably cheaper than the TM though, and as a bonus you get a stick
shifter (up/down only, not an H-gate).

If you want something tough the TM is probably better (bear in mind my
pedal problem though), if you want good FF go for the racing imo.

If you can, go to a local PC shop & grip the wheel of each one and see
how much up/down & side-to-side play there is. My red momo has zero
play, although there is a little bit of a deadzone. The wheel can be
moved a little on the racing, which suggests to me that after a few
months it would put strain on the pot.

If you find a red momo, grab it while you can. I guess it's a personal
choice between the other two, I was lucky & didn't have to make that
choice ;-)

Malc.

I looked at a floor model, and they made a small but important design
change.  They've added a small positive stop to the paddle itself,
presumably to reduce strain on the switches.  It also felt more solid than I
ever remember mine being.  FWIW, I'd happily buy one with the new design to
replace mine which did have the left paddle give out (continues to work very
well otherwise).  I'm giving the Driving Force Pro a go first though.

It's a nice bonus, but something about it's location makes it uncomfortable
for me to use continuously.  I think it's because I don't sit right in front
of the wheel making it a bit of a stretch.  If you like to sit really close
to the wheel, the ergonomics should be ok.

There is definitely some play in the Racing's shaft.  Fortunately, it uses
an optical sensor which I imagine won't suffer from it (or at least not as
much).  Still, it can be annoying and a little disconcerting when things get
a little crazy.  I've not noticed any problems from it though.  Also,
someone out there has instructions on tightening things up, but it requires
disassembling the wheel a good bit.

Alan

You can (and you should ;>) use these levers as a clutch. If you
disconnect pedals from the wheel, you'll have a controller with 3 axi*
(steering wheel and 2 levers). Rewire the pedals to the gameport and
configure generic joystick in OS. Now you got 2 more axi*. Thus you
can use pedals for throttle/brake, and one of the levers as clutch.
Not sure how to use remaing lever though.

While my Thrustmaster Ferrari FFW lasted I was driving exactly like
that, and after moving to MSFF I was really missing the analog clutch.

What I'm wondering is where people are buying new TM Ferrari wheel?
Obviously, no local retailer carries it here, and I couldn't even
find one online :(

Alex.