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It has all the usual driving views.  You can edit the***pit view in the
config files...similar to the ISI F1 games.  Also, the***pit view looks
simliar to a lot of the F1C/2002 mods.

Btw, the console version doesn't have a proper***pit view...just a centred
dash/hood view.

Bumper cam, in-car central, in-car LHD, swingman external.

There's no left/right view as far as I can see, but you can edit the ini
files to change POV etc.

I'm using the bumper cam to get a smoother framerate, the***pit view
has no 'real' instruments but it's pretty good imo.

Malc.

Andrew McP

Not really true.  PAL games generally don't run on NTSC consoles (and vice
versa) unless you have a mod chip.

'Nuff said, eh?

Andrew McP

Thanks for that. I had no idea. I'll try to stick to things I know a
*tiny* bit about next time ;-)

Andrew McP

Ok, I found the first thing I *really* dislike. Having managed to get my
Momo working on split axis I've gone back to the (rather useful and well
designed) driving school. I just passed one of the advanced tests and RB
has rewarded me by giving me a vile, poisonous Red Bull! I thought he was
trying to teach me good driving habits, not to drink cr*p that screws your
physiology up?

Damned product placement, gets everywhere!

Andrew McP

PS I'm not entirely sure this is a good reason not to buy RBR ;-)

Download the .dds handler thingy from nvidia and install it with photoshop.
Find the redbull can texture (I saw it last night) and go to town on it....

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com

No matter, it was time to get a Momo anyhow.  :)

Thanks for the help,

Alanb

    As someone who suffers from Narcolepsy and has depended upon *** to
daily survive my job and homelife, I can say without any hesitation that
Red Bull is for Wimps....It barely registers on the 'keep awake' scale.
:)

dave henrie

:)

Perhaps it's just sour grapes because I can't consistently manage a
Scandinavian flick (I always thought that was something to do with ***
sex). Or perhaps it's because I really am a straight line driver with
*just* enough skill in corners to do a decent impersonation of an average
GPL driver. Not sure.

I am sure though that this is the best rally sim I've ever tried. Previous
efforts haven't given me half the thrill this can. The sense of speed, the
superb graphics, the authentic feel to things like handbrake turns, all
combine to give some great grin moments. So I'm certainly not taking it
off my recommended list. Just wanted to introduce a little caution into my
un***erated praise.

Or maybe I'm just hedging my bets ;-)

Andrew McP

This is as real as it gets, apart from feeling the g-forces. Without wishing
to big note myself, I was a club level rally driver for many years, and have
done thousands of scandos over the years. Stick with it, and you'll get the
hang of it.

I suggest you start off by mastering the Finland stages. This makes it easy
to do scandos through the esses, one slide over-correcting into another. On
gravel, you have to master a lot of things - weight transfer, torque steer,
tyre flexing and a lot of other things. This is the reality.

Master a single stage first. Learn the stage backwards, so that you know the
corners, and can then focus your attention on technique. Find a tightening
corner, and master all the methods of car control taugh at the rally school.
When you are confident, turn in earlier and throw the car more sideways into
the corner. Then, take a wide line and go for the throttle off neutral
oversteer (wheel should be almost straight, using just throttle and brake to
get through the corner. When you've mastered the different approaches and
exits, find a good set series of medium-tight curves than you can use to
master the scandos. Start off by using too much oversteer - this makes for
slow times, but makes the scandos easier to accomplish. Through the car hard
into the first curve - full opposite lock. Power out hard, and let the car
oversteer to full opposite lock in the other direction, setting you up for
the second curve. When you've mastered this, go for better times by just
using enough over correction to set you up for the second curve.

Remember, this is realistic, so don't expect to master it in a few days. The
greatest buzz for me with RBR is getting a series of bends perfect, driving
"in the flow" as such, so that I'm running off reflexes without conciously
thinking about what is happening.

Finally, go watch some recent WRC rallies. Look at how these cars go through
the corners, and suddenly you'll have a new appreciation for the skill of
the drivers, and also be able to relate to what is happening, as you'll see
for yourself in real life that the physics of RBR match the real cars.

Tim