rec.autos.simulators

> Vintook

> > Hear me out.  I've examined many wrecks of mine.  90+% of the time I:

> > A. Slipped up in the corner into the AI.
> > B. Tried to pass from too far back and properly had the door
> > slammed.
> > C. Was going too slow into the corner.

> > Only 10% of the time was it the AI's fault.  Mostly it was impatience
> > on mine.  You needed to wait for a _good_ pasing opportunity, not just
> > dive inside with abandon going into the turn.  Often you needed a few
> > corners to complete the pass, just like in real life.

> > Now you can do anything.  Folks, it's natural to be sweating bullets
> > about slipping up when you are passing someone on the inside.  It's
> > natural to be sweating bullets when your spotter says "three wide".
> > It's not natural if it's ho-hum, as it is now.

> > Yeah, in some ways it's more fun to not be crashing so much.  But I
> > truly miss the intensity, which was much more like real life (I raced
> > SCCA for ten years).

> > With the old AI, after I spent a lot of time at a track I could run a
> > decent length race (1/2 hour anyway) without crashing.  It was a real
> > accomplishment and careful driving worked.   Now it's just too easy
> > and you can get away with sloppy driving.

> I agree now you can be sloppy as hell and get away with it! :(

> > Well said and I agree 100%. I tried to say this a while back and everyone
> > around here just trashed me. Having patience and holding your line
> > eliminated about 80% of the AI problems.

> > Vintook

> Personally, I haven't race a full season with the AI since N2 and just
> use the AI for practicing.  Online is where the real action is.

> My thoughts,
> Jason.

> > I agree now you can be sloppy as hell and get away with it! :(

> > > Well said and I agree 100%. I tried to say this a while back and
everyone
> > > around here just trashed me. Having patience and holding your line
> > > eliminated about 80% of the AI problems.

> > > Vintook

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> Jason Monds
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> On Tue, 01 May 2001 18:53:56 GMT, "Ronnie  Bigwhip"

> >well its less fun cause they give you so much room that you can pass with
> >your eyes closed.I like to practice racing in traffic with the AI but
since
> >they are so wimpy its hard to learn half as much from them :)
> > Still a ton of fun though but its just not as much of a learning how to
> >drive right experience:(

> A.      Slipped up in the corner into the AI.
> B.      Tried to pass from too far back and properly had the door
> slammed.
> C.      Was going too slow into the corner.

> Only 10% of the time was it the AI's fault.  Mostly it was impatience
> on mine.  You needed to wait for a _good_ pasing opportunity, not just
> dive inside with abandon going into the turn.  Often you needed a few
> corners to complete the pass, just like in real life.

> Now you can do anything.  Folks, it's natural to be sweating bullets
> about slipping up when you are passing someone on the inside.  It's
> natural to be sweating bullets when your spotter says "three wide".
> It's not natural if it's ho-hum, as it is now.

> Yeah, in some ways it's more fun to not be crashing so much.  But I
> truly miss the intensity, which was much more like real life (I raced
> SCCA for ten years).

> With the old AI, after I spent a lot of time at a track I could run a
> decent length race (1/2 hour anyway) without crashing.  It was a real
> accomplishment and careful driving worked.   Now it's just too easy
> and you can get away with sloppy driving

> IMHO...

> -Larry

> > Hear me out.  I've examined many wrecks of mine.  90+% of the time I:

> > A. Slipped up in the corner into the AI.
> > B. Tried to pass from too far back and properly had the door
> > slammed.
> > C. Was going too slow into the corner.

> > Only 10% of the time was it the AI's fault.  Mostly it was impatience
> > on mine.  You needed to wait for a _good_ pasing opportunity, not just
> > dive inside with abandon going into the turn.  Often you needed a few
> > corners to complete the pass, just like in real life.

> > Now you can do anything.  Folks, it's natural to be sweating bullets
> > about slipping up when you are passing someone on the inside.  It's
> > natural to be sweating bullets when your spotter says "three wide".
> > It's not natural if it's ho-hum, as it is now.

> > Yeah, in some ways it's more fun to not be crashing so much.  But I
> > truly miss the intensity, which was much more like real life (I raced
> > SCCA for ten years).

> > With the old AI, after I spent a lot of time at a track I could run a
> > decent length race (1/2 hour anyway) without crashing.  It was a real
> > accomplishment and careful driving worked.   Now it's just too easy
> > and you can get away with sloppy driving.

> > The old AI were blind as bats.  I could never get past 10 laps without
one
> > of our favorite hero's ramming me into the infield if I tried to pass.

> > IMHO...

> > -Larry

> > > Hear me out.  I've examined many wrecks of mine.  90+% of the time I:

> > > A. Slipped up in the corner into the AI.
> > > B. Tried to pass from too far back and properly had the door
> > > slammed.
> > > C. Was going too slow into the corner.

> > > Only 10% of the time was it the AI's fault.  Mostly it was impatience
> > > on mine.  You needed to wait for a _good_ pasing opportunity, not just
> > > dive inside with abandon going into the turn.  Often you needed a few
> > > corners to complete the pass, just like in real life.

> > > Now you can do anything.  Folks, it's natural to be sweating bullets
> > > about slipping up when you are passing someone on the inside.  It's
> > > natural to be sweating bullets when your spotter says "three wide".
> > > It's not natural if it's ho-hum, as it is now.

> > > Yeah, in some ways it's more fun to not be crashing so much.  But I
> > > truly miss the intensity, which was much more like real life (I raced
> > > SCCA for ten years).

> > > With the old AI, after I spent a lot of time at a track I could run a
> > > decent length race (1/2 hour anyway) without crashing.  It was a real
> > > accomplishment and careful driving worked.   Now it's just too easy
> > > and you can get away with sloppy driving.

> -Larry

> > That never happened to me. But the old AI would chop ya sometimes but if
> > you ran a cuople races you learn to know if its safe to pass them or
not.

> > > The old AI were blind as bats.  I could never get past 10 laps without
> one
> > > of our favorite hero's ramming me into the infield if I tried to pass.

> > > IMHO...

> > > -Larry

> > > > Hear me out.  I've examined many wrecks of mine.  90+% of the time
I:

> > > > A. Slipped up in the corner into the AI.
> > > > B. Tried to pass from too far back and properly had the door
> > > > slammed.
> > > > C. Was going too slow into the corner.

> > > > Only 10% of the time was it the AI's fault.  Mostly it was
impatience
> > > > on mine.  You needed to wait for a _good_ pasing opportunity, not
just
> > > > dive inside with abandon going into the turn.  Often you needed a
few
> > > > corners to complete the pass, just like in real life.

> > > > Now you can do anything.  Folks, it's natural to be sweating bullets
> > > > about slipping up when you are passing someone on the inside.  It's
> > > > natural to be sweating bullets when your spotter says "three wide".
> > > > It's not natural if it's ho-hum, as it is now.

> > > > Yeah, in some ways it's more fun to not be crashing so much.  But I
> > > > truly miss the intensity, which was much more like real life (I
raced
> > > > SCCA for ten years).

> > > > With the old AI, after I spent a lot of time at a track I could run
a
> > > > decent length race (1/2 hour anyway) without crashing.  It was a
real
> > > > accomplishment and careful driving worked.   Now it's just too easy
> > > > and you can get away with sloppy driving.