rec.autos.simulators

I understand many feel that F1 2000 is the best out so far.  I bought it,
didn't like it, and returned it. (my computer was too slow to enjoy)
What's the best out of the past F1 games.  I've got GP2, but my wheel isn't
working right with it.  Should I got after Monaco, Official, or what?  I
assume there is new paintjobs available to download.  What should I get?
Thanks!

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-Brett
Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999
"I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore
Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000
"It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty
Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ!

spoke:

Yes, MGPRS2.
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Nos

Can you wait for GP3?  If you have no satisfaction of F1 2000 then I doubt
any title will be good for you.

Why isn't your wheel working with GP2? Helping you on that would be the best
solution. :)

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

For some reason it says that the calibration range isn't great enough.
It's a Logtiech Wingman...it works about once ever ten/fif*** times I try
it.  Also, F1 2000 was too fast for my computer also, which I'm sure GP3
will be as well. :(

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-Brett
Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999
"I will see you at the front, and wish me luck..." - Greg Moore
Goodbye Adam Petty 1980-2000
"It's all about racing on the track." - Adam Petty
Congratulations to Juan Montoya, 2000 Indy 500 Champ!

Come on, Francois -- he said his computer was too slow for F1 2000,
which seems to be a pretty decent game on a mid-range machine (like my
K6-2 400, for example), so do you REALLY think he's going to be able to
even LOAD GP3???

Based on my own VERY limited experience, I'd recommend that he try
downloading the F1WGP demo -- it felt VERY much like GP2 to me, and
doesn't seem to be too hardware-intensive.

-- JB

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Before you buy.

MGPRS2 is the best of the rest, and it is not as CPU hungry - by a long way!
Iain

I reckon GP3 will run better on slower machines than F1 2000.
The reason for this is also why it will be a much better sim
than F1 2000, lots more time and care has been spent creating
it.  I'm sure it will have more efficient physics and graphics
engines.

I am quite confident I will be okay with GP3 with my P2 350,
though this might mean running 640x480 and compromising some
graphical detail.

Chris

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thus spoke:

Yes, but if he can't get F1 2000 running at a decent frame rate then
maybe it won't be any better with GP3. I remember when I first got GP2
the frame rate was really bad on my computer at the time (can't
remember what cpu). Had to turn off most of the detail to get it
running at a decent frame rate. F1RS ran much better.
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Nos

It gets really tiring to keep pointing this out: GP2 did not support 3D cards
and that is the ONLY reason why it is such a CPU-eater.

Of course GP3 might still be a resource-hog, but the fact that GP2 was has
nothing to do with it.

JoH

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:09:55 +0200, Jo Helsen

Really tiring? Hmm...Nascar2 and Indycar2 didn't use 3D acceleration
on my computer either, but both ran fine. This is twice you've gotten
***with me. Where you born ***or is it a new experience for you?

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Nos

SCGT is a graphics pig, it chugs around turns (chop, chop, chop) when games
with better AI and graphics are silky smooth.  F12K is stuck with that
crappy engine as its base.  ISI also never solved their brain damaged AI
bug, it still ruins F12K for me.  Imagine how much more choppy SCGT or F12K
would be with real AI calculations taking place?  I hope GP3 runs similar to
GPL: superb physics, good graphics, unbelievable AI and smooth consistent
framerates.  It's the only way to race.

Joe Marques

". . . though this might mean running 640x480 and compromising some
graphical detail."

Chris, Chris, Chris -- you apparently don't recall the joys of running
GP2 on a 386-20 with all graphics options turned down, do you?  The 486
era was humbled by GP2 also, if I recall correctly, and even when I
moved up to a screaming P-100 system, GP2 still was unplayable with all
graphics options enabled.

Given that, I have no doubt that you WILL be able to play GP3 on your
P2-350, as long as you don't mind something that looks like the graphic
equivalent of the original IndyCar Racing (the first version of ICR,
that is, which didn't even feature SVGA graphics).

Eye-candy isn't everything, but if the graphics aren't convincing the
simulation experience just isn't all that immersive when you get right
down to it.  How much fun it it to drive on a simulated track with, uh,
nothing trackside?  Surrealism versus simulation -- the next big RAS
debate.  <G>

Or is there really THAT fine of a line between compromise and torture?

-- JB

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Neither did ICR2 or Nascar2, and they ran perfectly well.
It's you that's becoming rather tiring!
Iain

At last, a fight!

Normally my comments are much too moderate to start a flamewar, but
when you meet the right person on the other side, that seems no
obstacle, hehe.

1) GP2 is graphically and physics-wise more complex than the two
examples you mention. And it has AI. <G>

Turn graphics down and it runs smooth.
Which is the same as "give graphics to a 3D card and it runs smooth".
Which is the same as "since GP3 will use 3D cards there is no reason,
at this point and without further knowledge, to expect a slow
performance _based on the GP2 example_."

See? With some common sense and a relative lack of preoccupation it is
not difficult at all.

It's people who get some sort of enjoyment out of slashing GP3 (or "X"
for that matter) who will tell you that GP3 HAS to be slow. It's as if
they WISH it to be slow. I mean, what is more fun than being negative
about sims that have not been released yet? (and that won't be like
GPL  ;-)  )

As I said, it is a possibility that GP3 will require a serious system.
But at this point there is ZERO information to support or deny it.
What you think just depends on your attitude and nothing else.

Do you think WSC will be slow, for example?

2) in your previous post you compared GP2 to *F1RS* which I'm sure
runs great on your PC in software mode. <G>

Your's,

JoH

thus spoke:

Hehe..I'm in a rush right now. Going for a day trip and have to leave
in a minute so don't have time to reply right now. But, I will mull
this over and get back to you soon.

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Nos