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I *know* the Matrox M3d is *not* 3Dfx, thats why I went on to say.....

8-)

*Peter*    8-)
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I've taken the plunge and ordered a 'real cpu' today. New system spec is PII
400, 64MB, 8MB AGP, 12MB Voodoo2.

I think a lot of the problems are due to lack of power. The Cyrix was a good
chip when I bought it 2 years ago. Half the price of a Pentium 166 and
almost as powerful. A lot of the new 3d games don't like it so I've gone for
the genuine article this time <g>.

I might have one last go using 1.05 to see if that sorts out some of the
problems though. I did read the FAQ BTW, and tried to read the technical
support forum on the web sight - which rather like the game wasn't working
either <VBG>
.

The box says P120 and I read loads of posts saying how smooth it was
compared to GP2. Seems that GP2 runs OK on my system but F1RS hardly runs at
all.

Hi Matthias

I'm using a GP500 by Interactive Racing, which works like a dream on all
other games....

So I need to download new sounds? That speaks well for the original (NOT)

I know that I need to try out the game on a faster computer before passing
judgement, but ability to drive with half the car on the grass and half on
the track springs to mind <g>.

This is true for a lot of *recent* games, but when I bought the Cyrix, and
for the last two years, it has served me well. I ordered  a new system
today, PII 400 with 12MB Voodoo2.

I only found that out when I tried to run it <g>

Plus the M3D was only 35 Sterling

See you

Lawrence

Hi Nathan

I'll try this as soon as I get the game working properly.........

I did, never could get usable steering out of F1RS. I gave up and sold
the game.

Joe

With voodoo2  you will have to use patch 1.09.

The M3D is 4MB and D3D
So F1RS does support it.

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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:44:58 +0100, "Lawrence Edwards"

Win95 boxes say a 386 too, have you tried that? :-) Not fun.
You CAN run it on a P120, but with graphics turned right down.
No one says it runs WELL on a P120, only that it runs...
Personally, I wouldnt run it on anything less than a P200.

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Greg, your comment does not address of the fact that the F1RS
menu systems sucks dead bunnies through a garden hose. I've never
seen a worse GUI in my life, and its usability is worse than
the dos prompt.

I just do not understand how this thing went past QA without being
noticed. Even if Lawrence had a real CPU the user interface would just
suck as badly as it does, and I really hope that F1RSII does address
this problem although IMHO it's a hot favourite for a patch:

1) Load the last used car setup upon entering the track.
   If this is too hard to implement (though I do see no reason
   on earth supporting this), at least make that damn scrollbox
   remember the last track you were on and don't display all saved
   setups.

2) Give us a non-animated mouse pointer which is only half as
   sluggish as the one they're currently using. The pointer alone
   makes the gui even more horrible to use.

3) Give us an option to turn off the GUI sounds *from within
   the game*, not by hacking txt files.

4) Allow restart of races in Grand Prix mode, and especially,
   allow quitting a race back to the menu without displaying
   the time table for 72 laps. HORRID! GP2 warned you that not
   having the race produce a result would be bad for your championship,
   but allowed it nonetheless if you insisted.

5) Improve replay functionality, make it quicker! A poor-man's
   replay a' la GP2 would be great to have as an option, just
   to get a quick view of just how brilliantly fast you took that
   corner. I still marvel at ICR2 and GPL replays which saved a whole
   race if you wanted to and were quick as hell (ok, let's see the
   full version of gpl first ;-)

That's my five points, er, cents worth. Throw in a blue flag or at
least better lapping AI for CC's and you've got the perfect racing
game.

Here's my system spec, inviting abuse just as well as lawrence:-)

        amd k6-200
        48mb
        SB AWE32
        diamond monster 3d voodoo I, 4MB (I think ;-)
        full install, patched to 1.09
        DirectX 5.2

Greetings,

Uwe

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Correct it sucks. I was referring to racing performance with his
Cyrix. F1RS is known to perform badly with a Cyrix.

I completely agree with this. This is very irritating to sit
through an accelerated race when you quit. Also, RESTART
has never worked for me and I always play the game
in Grand Prix mode.

I do think blue flags would be cool along with more
CC breakdowns. I do mostly 25% races and they rarely
breakdown.

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What really gets my goat is the fact that you'll be sitting in the garage at Hockenheim and have to scroll through all the setups or all the tracks to find the one you want. In GP2 it knew what track you were at and gave you the option of filtering or not. I guess that's why they call Crammond a genius. Who knows how hard that trick must have been.

And why not put all the Setup options on just two pages? That has to be the lamest decision they made. Next to making some options increment by clicking an up down arrow (the correct way) and some with a slider that you can never quite get to land on the right number and can never read behind that blasted flag.

Plus, the "mouse in the menus/arrow keys on the track" is very unintuitive. I know that most games do it that way but something about F1RS is more frustrating to deal with.

Even the dang Nintendo games I have give this option. But then, I guess that's why they call Miyamoto a genius. Who knows how hard that trick must have been.

But NOT in championship mode.

Mmmmmm... Blue Flags.

Maybe we could have Paul Jones explain it to us all. He's French you know.  :-)

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Remove us here and there to mail me.

 Well you can scroll through all of them if you like,but I just click
the name of the circuit in the window to the right and then only
setups for that track are displayed in the window  on the left.
     I guess that means someones a genius :-).

 On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:56:17 -0600, "mark jeangerard"

Yes, but I am afraid it's not you. ;-)  Maybe you've grown up with
unintuitive, time-wasting GUI's like these, but some of us haven't.
What's so hard about implementing a filter that only shows the setups
for the current track? Why on earth would I want to load my high-downforce
portugal setup in Hockenheim?

It's little things like these that really spoil some of the fun one could
have with the game in the long run. You accept it the first couple of times
you enter the setup menu, but after the fifth time it really tends to get
annoying. My guess is that most beta testers never went into playing with
the setup, otherwise this could not have gone unnoticed.

Regards,

Uwe

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You guys sure are hard to please :-) It's only one mouse click for
God's sake.The previous poster said that you couldn't get just the
setups for that track displayed which simply is not true.Select the
track from the list and you see only setups for that track.. If your
in that much of a hurry that you can't do that I'm surprised you can
spend your time playing with your computer at all.
      I didn't grow up with unintuitive ,time wasting GUI's,I grew up
with BASIC and CPM,which I think were much bigger wasters of time than
clicking one mouse button.