rec.autos.simulators

Although RAS is a good place to discuss car physics, I wanted to let
you know that there is a technical forum up, specifically for
technical issues related to car simming, at the just-open Race Sim
Central Forums:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

It's quiet there, as it's new, but may become a nice place of talking
about this kind of stuff.

The Racer forum is generally too much targeted at Racer alone, so this
might be a nice place. I don't really have a preference yet to using
RAS or this forum.

Just a suggestion,

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim  : http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Pencil art    : http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Although I am a physicist (or was, at one stage in my career),
I don't reply to technical posts, but read and follow them with
great interest.

Cheers & all the best,

Uwe

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Hehe Uwe I disagree on that one... Forums are IMHO a much better place for
discussions which stay open over longer periods of time. Here on RAS the
posts disappear from many peoples newsproviders in way to short time.

It is not that the *** physics is hurting anyone here.. it just gets
lost in the fray, and that is why some of the same questions about e.g. the
"pacejka constant" keep popping up here. We are trying to make a place
specifically aimed at answering that type of questions. Matematics, Physics,
Programming, and other files related in some way to simracing.

The forum also gives a much better opportunity to provide diagrams, pictures
and related files.... and it is searchable.

I know the newsgroup vs. maillist vs. forum discussion is an old one, and
that opinions differ, but please do drop by the new technical section and
join the hopefully ressourcefull group of people there.

Btw. we are working on a new hack that will make a poster in the
RaceSimCentral technical forumsection able to post to RAS as well as to the
forum if he so chooses. This means that RAS will not be robbed of the good
physical/technical/mathematical discussions... you will still be able to
read them right here. But at the same time the more "difficult" discussion
topics will have a permanent home which will hopefully in time turn into a
vault of knowledge.

Mikkel
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I fail to see the need for forums, given Usenet.  It works just
fine for me, so I certainly won't be visiting any forums soon.

Jonny

--
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If pushed really hard I probably could.... in theory at least ;)
My preference of a forum over a newsgroup has got nothing to do with that
though !!

Mikkel

Probably many may not realize, but USENET and nntp servers is not
the same thing. One may host newsgroups on his server (through
nntp protocol), without being a part of the USENET. These
newsgroups won't be added to the lists and won't be propagated
by any other news servers,
however everybody will be able to point their favourite newsreader
to that server and participate in the discussions. In this
case the host of the server will decide if any articles will
expire and when.

So far I am yet to see any web based forum that can be
compared to even such poor newsreader implementations as
Microsoft outlook.
Why?
- no filtering
- no scoring
- poor thread support
- no download from the checkpoint

One also may notice that most of the companies host discussion groups
using nntp servers (for example Microsoft, Sybase, Opera) which in
no way contradicts to putting files, various guides etc on their
websites.

I wish more web/news masters would combine benefits of several
protocols (hhtp,ftp,nntp) and use them as they were intended by
their developers. They would also save server resources as well
as money paid for the bandwidth.

Alex.

We use vBulletin which supports filtering through the ignore user list and
buddy list and has thread ratings.  Not sure what you mean by poor thread
support and of course the software doesn't allow you to download the forum.
The main advantage of web based forums is the ability to upload files.

Personally I see a place for both newsgroups and forums.  I was posting here
at RAS for more than a year before I discovered Legends Central and have
posted at both since then.

Phil Lee
--
Race Sim Central Administrator
http://www.racesimcentral.com

That's a good idea, but I lean towards the anti forum crowd. Technical physics
discussions aside, I'd rather have one central place to exchange information,
whereas with forums it's fragmented all over the net. RAS is the only place I
check regularly.

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I hope that interesting threads from the forum are cc'd over to RAS in some
way.  And of course it would be great if someone would collect the physics
threads on RAS and keep them somewhere nice and safe (and searchable).

-- Doug Milliken
   <http://www.millikenresearch.com>

For example I have filter set to ignore Nascar posts
(one that contain nascar, N4 or n3 in a subject) and several
"annoying" posters. If I see thread I don't want to follow
I set to "ignore it". I give GPL posts higher score (+1000) so
I see them at the top. Of course read posts are marked and I
don't have to go through them again. Also I use "hide read threads"
options. As a result I am able
to read posts that are intersting for me just by hitting 'space'.
I can interrupt reading at any point and continue later from
the place I stopped at. I use web forum (yes, yes, your forum ;>)
because it's the best one for GPL,
but I am definitely spending more time navigating through the
web based interface than I would like to.

While RAS is non-binary group, you can accept attachment or
allow uploads on your site with the links from the posts
if you hosts news server yourself.

Alex.

TP

As soon as you want to follow more than a few web forums, the fact that
you have to check multiple web pages is a huge disadvantage compared
to usenet browsing.

All the other disadvantages like not being able to use the client of
your own choice just makes things worse.

      _
Mats Lofkvist