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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:51:10

why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
four, when the damn track only has two turns?

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by **Paul** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:07:27

Most Nascar tracks have 4 turns. For instance, at Atlanta, turn 1 is after
the start/finish line, and becomes turn 2 at the apex of the turn. Thus
turns 3 & 4 are at the other end of the track. Generally turns 1&3 are when
you enter a corner, and 2&4 are exiting the corner.

Apparently you haven't watched much racing on TV. :)

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by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:42:41

> why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
> four, when the damn track only has two turns?

Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus
on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to
split those long turns in two....

I have no idea why they do this.......:-)

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by **John Pancoas** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:49:24

Lol, we do not have a..............sorry, what did you say, was busy doing
something else? <G>

-John

> > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
> > four, when the damn track only has two turns?

> Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus
> on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to
> split those long turns in two....

> I have no idea why they do this.......:-)

> Beers and cheers
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by **Joeri Co** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:54:48

LOL!
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> > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
> > four, when the damn track only has two turns?

> Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus
> on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to
> split those long turns in two....

> I have no idea why they do this.......:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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by **McF** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:25:52

I think they use such a terminology not because "they are American" but
because it's more practical.
Think at your spotter talking about an "accident at the beginning of the
first curve" instead of "accident at curve 1".

A European

> > why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
> > four, when the damn track only has two turns?

> Americans have a short attention span, so while we Europeans can focus
> on a turn that lasts 180 degrees, Americans can't, so they decided to
> split those long turns in two....

> I have no idea why they do this.......:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:57:49

> Most Nascar tracks have 4 turns. For instance, at Atlanta, turn 1 is after
> the start/finish line, and becomes turn 2 at the apex of the turn. Thus
> turns 3 & 4 are at the other end of the track. Generally turns 1&3 are when
> you enter a corner, and 2&4 are exiting the corner.

> Apparently you haven't watched much racing on TV. :)

you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because
there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so
insanely dull. :)

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by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:25:47

My teacher said there's no such thing as a stoopid question. So I figured
it was just stoopid people asking smart questions.

Some things to remember about American Ovals. Many are very very BIG.
yer spotter saying there is an accident somewhere up ahead for the next half
mile isn't very accurate.
2nd, the Indianapolis factor. This big mother has 4 separate turns
connected by short straights(chutes we call'em) So when other ovals were
built, even those with only two continuous turns, the same naming convention
used by Indy was followed.
3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the world
does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids?
Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer,
Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be 'Marlboro
turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway'
it just is....
dave henrie

> >why is this dude talking about accidents happening in turn three or
> >four, when the damn track only has two turns?

> LOL that's not a stupid question, it's a pretty good one...

> On the ovals NASCAR counts the entrance and exit, ie turn 1 is
> entrance to the first turn, turn 2 is the exit. Turns 3 & 4 are the
> 'second' turn, and doglegs don't count.

by **Mario Petrinovi** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:21:50

Nascar started when there was no TV. At that times
you had to go to track to see a race. Since it was, for them,
insanely dull, to wait 2 minutes at some corner to see 10 sec.
of racing, they invented Nascar. But they wanted more
corners, so they split them in two, lol. Now you know.

> you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because
> there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so
> insanely dull. :)

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:46:58

> Some things to remember about American Ovals. Many are very very BIG.
> yer spotter saying there is an accident somewhere up ahead for the next half
> mile isn't very accurate.
> 2nd, the Indianapolis factor. This big mother has 4 separate turns
> connected by short straights(chutes we call'em) So when other ovals were
> built, even those with only two continuous turns, the same naming convention
> used by Indy was followed.
> 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the world
> does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids?
> Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer,
> Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be 'Marlboro
> turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway'

that would be cool. on the local racetrack around here, we have a
turn called "the butcher". a well fitting name for that particular
turn, even if the name is a coincidence lost on most people nowadays. :)

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by **McF** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:30:54

Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim?

by **ymenar** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:35:26

> Think at your spotter talking about an "accident at the beginning of the
> first curve" instead of "accident at curve 1".

Nah, they wouldn't say "curve", it rolls the tongue too much. They use
"taahurn" ;)

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:49:01

> > you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because
> > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so
> > insanely dull. :)

> Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim?

sure. I wouldn't want to watch, though.

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:52:05

> > you're right I haven't seen much oval racing on TV. not only because
> > there is no oval racing on norwegian telly, but also because it's so
> > insanely dull. :)

> Why do you want to play an insanely dull sim?

I've heard of people that don't like ***, but I don't go around
assuming they don't want to get laid.

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by **Stuart Becktel** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:02:59

Sadly, with CMS (I will not call it Lowes, damn't I just did!) that is
probably not too far from happening.
-Stuart Becktell

> > 3rdly...when has America ever worried about how/why the rest of the
world
> >does something? Should we rename turn one to Maggots? Turn two Druids?
> >Turn three 'Brought to you by Budwieser, America's most popular Beer,
> >Budwieser Brewing Company, St. Louis Missouri.' Turn 4 could be
'Marlboro
> >turn 4 at the Daytona International Raceway'

> I can see it already: the Bud turn at Lowe's Motor Speedway in the
> Coca-Cola 600 presented by Red Lobster on NBC in conjunction with
> Exide!

> :)

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