rec.autos.simulators

I finally got a copy to the UK. Frankly, I'm disappointed for all the
reason's listed in the Mr Nobody thread (and then some). I won't regurgitate
them - but I would ask if anyone has any ideas on a particular problem that
is making a poor experience even less satisfactory.

I find that there's an intolerable amount of shimmer at all tracks. It's
particularly evident on fences, posts, wall/track joins and worst of all on
the cars. As a car pulls away from you, the logo or decal on the back starts
to roll and shimmer. The sim experience is (for me ) being totally
interrupted by these appalling textures.

My hope is that I'm just missing something really simple. I've applied all
the tweaks listed on all the bulletin boards. The problem is unaffected by
resolution, AA or AF settings. I'm currently running 1024x768, 6xAA, 16xAF,
all options maxed fully out on an A8V, FX53, 1Gb, X800XT, 2ZS combination. I
have no jaggies at all and the frame rate never drops below 55 even at the
back of a full 43 car field.

I really hope there are some ideas out there which I haven't yet considered.
If I can get the graphics up to N2k3 quality it's worth*** on for 'the
patch'.

Thanks in anticipation

same here Neil..tried aa, no aa, tweaking the .plr file. Still can't get rid
of that shimmer. Cars or trucks look terrible when you are coming up on them
from behind.

DC

I am running at 1600x1200x32 but using no FSAA or Aniso and the jaggies
are minimal at best. I see nothing like you describe with the bad
textures of a car or truck as it pulls away from you.

With your system, you should have no problem bumping up that resolution
and you will be amazed at how the jaggies disappear.  Plus, with your
rig, no doubt you can run some kind of FSAA or Aniso even at that high
resolution.  I have an AMD 3200XP, GeForce 6800 GT card and 1 GB of DDR
400 and the sim really moves along at that resolution.  Your rig wont
even breath hard :)

mine looks even worse with aa, af turned off. intel 3.0, x800xt pe card. The
shimmering is there whether aa is on or off. Frames are high no matter what
also.

Using cat 5.1's may be the drivers?

DC

joe
image space

But if you have a look in your config.ini (Not the *.plr file--this one
is in the NSR root directory) file, look for this line=

ANISO=1     (Look for this line, it should be defaulted to zero, but
you can change it up....)
EFFECTS=1
MIPMAPS=1
VSYNC=0
VBSTRATEGY=1 (Vertex Buffer Strategy--possibles are 0,1,2--can help
with stuttering--at least in GTR :) I left mine at 1 so far works well
)

You have to manually add Aniso to the sim, but it does make a
difference--make it as high as 16 if you want, and see if it helps any.
 I tried it without mip maps and it just looks worse to me.

DC

I don't see that at all.

When you ran 3d config, did you check "use mip maps"?

If you didn't, the graphics are going to look like bad. A lot like what you
described.
--
David G Fisher

Thanks for the help.

Regards

The Aniso tip I mentioned earlier--you can set it to 1,2,4,8 (?),
16...(?).  Not only is it an 'on or off' deal, but you can adjust the
level as well, or at least that is the impression I got.

This sim is really starting to shine on this system.  I also had a play
with the 'Detroit Locker' modification to the *.svm (setups) file--I
used a DiffPower of 18 and a DiffPreload of 1, and the driving felt a
lot 'looser' in the corners, but still I could feel the mass of the car
(virtually, of course), and the tires grabbing the pavement.  With this
modification, it became nearly impossible (for me) to powerslide the
thing anywhere.  Actually, it felt great--unfortunately, I don't feel
like updating 60000 *.svm files to make them do this, nor do I want to
muck up the *.hdv files as that would cause a multiplayer mismatch.

I SURE HOPE EA puts the correct differential in the sim--it is very
good, in my opinion, out of the box, but with that little
adjustment--wow, is all I can say.  Why they left out the correct Diff,
I will never know-maybe so the newbies could slide it around like a
dirt tracker and have fun that way.  It is noticebly more difficult to
drive with the mod to the svm file, but at least both wheels spin when
you give it the gas.  How can you miss something like this???  Even
this was brought up in the demo discussion and they still leave it
in???

I hope EA makes new hdv or svm files, cause I sure in the Sam Hill am
not looking forward to doing this for EVERY SINGLE SETUP I USE :)  Of
course, if I have to, I will--but why should I, or anyone else, fix
that differential issue ???

Well, enough for now.  I think my graphics are set very well, and the
race I did last night at Atlanta was amazing--especially as I pull out
of the pits and 30 cars go blasting by!!  That was awesome!!!!  Like
very much so far.....

That's interesting about ansio not working unless you manually turn it on in
the cfg file.

Jeez, YAFCFC.

Yet Another Friggin Config File Change

I hope I NEVER have to reinstall this thing again. I'll NEVER get it back
the same!

-Larry

-Larry

--
David G Fisher