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$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

Don Wilsh

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Don Wilsh » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

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DAM

DW

Bruce Kennewel

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Dam what, Don?
The Amazon?

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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Stephen Ferguso

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Stephen Ferguso » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Dam the flow of pirated software, of course!

Stephen


> Dam what, Don?
> The Amazon?

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
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Jan Verschuere

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Quick thinking there Stephen... congrats! ;-)

Jan.
=---

Stephen Ferguson wrote...
> Dam the flow of pirated software, of course!

> Stephen



> > Dam what, Don?
> > The Amazon?

<Snip>
Don Wilsh

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Don Wilsh » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Oh No...  Its just alot of software being pirated..

dw

I was only surprised that we had $7 Billlion in software sales and estimated
$6 billion
in piracy.  Just shocked alittle about mankind.


> Dam what, Don?
> The Amazon?

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------




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Cris Eichle

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Cris Eichle » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00


says...

This $6 billion figure is based on the assumption that for every pirated
copy there is one legit copy sold less.
Suffice it to say that my experience at least is a totally different
one....

Cheers !
Cris

Bruce Kennewel

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Oh....how silly of me, Stephen. Of course!

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> Dam the flow of pirated software, of course!

> Stephen



> > Dam what, Don?
> > The Amazon?

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------




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Bruce Kennewel

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

It was an excellent response, wasn't it? :-)

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> Quick thinking there Stephen... congrats! ;-)

> Jan.
> =---
> Stephen Ferguson wrote...
> > Dam the flow of pirated software, of course!

> > Stephen



> > > Dam what, Don?
> > > The Amazon?
> <Snip>

Stephen Ferguso

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Stephen Ferguso » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

You flatter me.  Just don't tell the Canadian government that after ten
years of university education, all I can manage is a quick one-liner on the
USENET.

Stephen


> It was an excellent response, wasn't it? :-)

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------



> > Quick thinking there Stephen... congrats! ;-)

> > Jan.
> > =---
> > Stephen Ferguson wrote...
> > > Dam the flow of pirated software, of course!

> > > Stephen



> > > > Dam what, Don?
> > > > The Amazon?
> > <Snip>

Kevin Gavit

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by Kevin Gavit » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00


http://208.232.126.139/Magazine/6_12_00/industry_news/e3_piracy_losse...
While there is certainly rampant piracy, bear in mind that this number is
fiction.

David G Fishe

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by David G Fishe » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00

That number doesn't surprise me, considering people's ridiculous attitudes
as to what they think they are owed by software companies.

People will play a sim/game for hundreds of hours, and yet complain because
it costs a measly $40.00.

David G Fisher


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daxe

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by daxe » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> This $6 billion figure is based on the assumption that for every pirated
> copy there is one legit copy sold less.

Yeah..I don't get this.  I am no economic genius and I frequently miss
something obvious, but how is someone copying a game (and giving it to
someone who wasn't going to buy it otherwise) costing the developer any
money at all? It's not like hijacking a truckload of the retail packages and
reselling them.  The reproduction of the software isn't costing them
anything and there is no added expense for packaging or shipping or
anything.

This kind of goes along with something I find conceptually similar:

When a wealthy individual or corporation gets some kind of tax break,
someone always stands up to remind us how we are now 'paying their share.'
That makes it sound like the govt sets an amount it is going to collect in
taxes and then bills everyone accordingly.

And this one:

"time is money"  Unless you were doing something to make money with the
time, then the use of the time does NOT cost you any money.

~daxe

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m.seer

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by m.seer » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00



> > This $6 billion figure is based on the assumption that for every pirated
> > copy there is one legit copy sold less.

> Yeah..I don't get this.  I am no economic genius and I frequently miss
> something obvious, but how is someone copying a game (and giving it to
> someone who wasn't going to buy it otherwise) costing the developer any
> money at all?

Use of unlicenced software is theft. Pure and simple. Most people who steal
things never had the intention of buying said goods, whether they happen to
be tangible items or not. We could get into semantics on this one but the
fact remains.......

MS

MS

daxe

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by daxe » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00


life's little problems *are* that simple.  It's the big ones that are
complicated.

~daxe

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daxe

$6 Billion in Piracy Losses

by daxe » Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> Use of unlicenced software is theft. Pure and simple.

And unless you are stealing it from the software company or its agents, it
isn't costing them anything.

Isn't that what I was saying?  If they had no intent to buy the software,
then the software company was not going to make money off them, anyway.

Your fact has nothing to do with the question I asked.  The fact that it is
wrong doesn't cost them money.  If it does, please explain to me how it
does.

~daxe

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