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Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

Mark Daviso

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by Mark Daviso » Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:57:05


So what's gay got to do with freedom?

Mark

David G Fishe

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by David G Fishe » Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:35:40

Why do you want to know that?
--
David G Fisher


> David, do you also support ***?



> > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I
> decided
> > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally a
> waste
> > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the truth,
> and
> > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes
than
> to
> > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit
to
> > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people like
> > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't even
> > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let them
> yell
> > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it's
> really
> > very funny actually.

> > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a
"big
> > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn their
> > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are
just
> > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden
> from
> > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly
> > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and
> making
> > them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

> > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through
> corporations
> > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are
horriffic.
> > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We try
to
> > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the lying
> > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have
spent
> > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure that
> > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully
> constructed,
> > cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and
> children
> > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from
> > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and nothing
> > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's who've
> > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

> > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea"
after
> > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country
and
> as
> > visible as possible very soon.

> > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble
> with
> > truth/reality. :-)

> > --
> > David G Fisher



> > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and
> aunt
> > no
> > > movie ever gonna change that.  Rabbit food is just that...

> > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else
> pushing
> > > their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and Joseph
> Goebles
> > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

> > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we
> sure
> > > don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with
> > ***,
> > > whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a revolution :)

> > > Man, you sure you're not from California?

> > > Mitch





> > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas
to
> > hang
> > > > out
> > > > > with.
> > > > >  You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad sandwich
?
> > > > >  Lighten up, Francis.

> > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

> > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows
people
> > the
> > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer
> > > through
> > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images
> > from
> > > > inside those torture chambers.

> > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and
> > realize
> > > > that they are responsible.

> > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
> > > > --
> > > > David G Fisher

Bill Bollinge

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by Bill Bollinge » Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:16:35

Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :)

I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs.



> Why do you want to know that?
> --
> David G Fisher



> > David, do you also support ***?



> > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I
> > decided
> > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally a
> > waste
> > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the
truth,
> > and
> > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes
> than
> > to
> > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever admit
> to
> > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people
like
> > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't
even
> > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let
them
> > yell
> > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them, it's
> > really
> > > very funny actually.

> > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a
> "big
> > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn
their
> > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are
> just
> > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden
> > from
> > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly
> > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and
> > making
> > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

> > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through
> > corporations
> > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are
> horriffic.
> > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We
try
> to
> > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the
lying
> > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have
> spent
> > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure
that
> > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully
> > constructed,
> > > cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and
> > children
> > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from
> > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and
nothing
> > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's
who've
> > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

> > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea"
> after
> > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country
> and
> > as
> > > visible as possible very soon.

> > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble
> > with
> > > truth/reality. :-)

> > > --
> > > David G Fisher



> > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore and
> > aunt
> > > no
> > > > movie ever gonna change that.  Rabbit food is just that...

> > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else
> > pushing
> > > > their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and Joseph
> > Goebles
> > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

> > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we
> > sure
> > > > don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with
> > > ***,
> > > > whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a revolution
:)

> > > > Man, you sure you're not from California?

> > > > Mitch





> > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real gas
> to
> > > hang
> > > > > out
> > > > > > with.
> > > > > >  You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad
sandwich
> ?
> > > > > >  Lighten up, Francis.

> > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

> > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows
> people
> > > the
> > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals
suffer
> > > > through
> > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still
images
> > > from
> > > > > inside those torture chambers.

> > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and
> > > realize
> > > > > that they are responsible.

> > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
> > > > > --
> > > > > David G Fisher

David G Fishe

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by David G Fishe » Wed, 30 Jun 2004 05:32:14

The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture
and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals. Haven't
seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are
"processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten.

David G Fisher


> Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :)

> I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs.



> > Why do you want to know that?
> > --
> > David G Fisher



> > > David, do you also support ***?



> > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy I
> > > decided
> > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's generally
a
> > > waste
> > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the
> truth,
> > > and
> > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of eyes
> > than
> > > to
> > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever
admit
> > to
> > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been people
> like
> > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I won't
> even
> > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let
> them
> > > yell
> > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them,
it's
> > > really
> > > > very funny actually.

> > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a
> > "big
> > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn
> their
> > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We
are
> > just
> > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully
hidden
> > > from
> > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's
certainly
> > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic,
and
> > > making
> > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

> > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through
> > > corporations
> > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are
> > horriffic.
> > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We
> try
> > to
> > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the
> lying
> > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have
> > spent
> > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure
> that
> > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully
> > > constructed,
> > > > cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and
> > > children
> > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures
from
> > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and
> nothing
> > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's
> who've
> > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

> > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea"
> > after
> > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the
country
> > and
> > > as
> > > > visible as possible very soon.

> > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have
trouble
> > > with
> > > > truth/reality. :-)

> > > > --
> > > > David G Fisher



> > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore
and
> > > aunt
> > > > no
> > > > > movie ever gonna change that.  Rabbit food is just that...

> > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else
> > > pushing
> > > > > their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and Joseph
> > > Goebles
> > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

> > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and
we
> > > sure
> > > > > don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed
with
> > > > ***,
> > > > > whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a revolution
> :)

> > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California?

> > > > > Mitch





> > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real
gas
> > to
> > > > hang
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > with.
> > > > > > >  You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad
> sandwich
> > ?
> > > > > > >  Lighten up, Francis.

> > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

> > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things) shows
> > people
> > > > the
> > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals
> suffer
> > > > > through
> > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still
> images
> > > > from
> > > > > > inside those torture chambers.

> > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth,
and
> > > > realize
> > > > > > that they are responsible.

> > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David G Fisher

Bill Bollinge

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by Bill Bollinge » Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:56:10

So it would be different to you if only several million animals were
processed on factory farms per year?  And to make it better, they would be
processed for a profit and then NOT eaten?



> The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture
> and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals.
Haven't
> seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are
> "processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten.

> David G Fisher



> > Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :)

> > I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs.



> > > Why do you want to know that?
> > > --
> > > David G Fisher



> > > > David, do you also support ***?



> > > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy
I
> > > > decided
> > > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's
generally
> a
> > > > waste
> > > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the
> > truth,
> > > > and
> > > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of
eyes
> > > than
> > > > to
> > > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever
> admit
> > > to
> > > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been
people
> > like
> > > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I
won't
> > even
> > > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let
> > them
> > > > yell
> > > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them,
> it's
> > > > really
> > > > > very funny actually.

> > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in
a
> > > "big
> > > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn
> > their
> > > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We
> are
> > > just
> > > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully
> hidden
> > > > from
> > > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's
> certainly
> > > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic,
> and
> > > > making
> > > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

> > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through
> > > > corporations
> > > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are
> > > horriffic.
> > > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls.
We
> > try
> > > to
> > > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the
> > lying
> > > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations
have
> > > spent
> > > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure
> > that
> > > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully
> > > > constructed,
> > > > > cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and
> > > > children
> > > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures
> from
> > > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and
> > nothing
> > > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's
> > who've
> > > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

> > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no
idea"
> > > after
> > > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the
> country
> > > and
> > > > as
> > > > > visible as possible very soon.

> > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have
> trouble
> > > > with
> > > > > truth/reality. :-)

> > > > > --
> > > > > David G Fisher



> > > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore
> and
> > > > aunt
> > > > > no
> > > > > > movie ever gonna change that.  Rabbit food is just that...

> > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone
else
> > > > pushing
> > > > > > their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and
Joseph
> > > > Goebles
> > > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

> > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already
and
> we
> > > > sure
> > > > > > don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed
> with
> > > > > ***,
> > > > > > whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a
revolution
> > :)

> > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California?

> > > > > > Mitch





> > > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real
> gas
> > > to
> > > > > hang
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > with.
> > > > > > > >  You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad
> > sandwich
> > > ?
> > > > > > > >  Lighten up, Francis.

> > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

> > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things)
shows
> > > people
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals
> > suffer
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still
> > images
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > inside those torture chambers.

> > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth,
> and
> > > > > realize
> > > > > > > that they are responsible.

> > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David G Fisher

Bill Bollinge

Almost a year since Spooky was killed !

by Bill Bollinge » Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:56:32

BTW, the topics are absolutely related :)



> The two subjects aren't related. I don't believe in the horriffic torture
> and nightmarish slaughtering of any animal, including human animals.
Haven't
> seen too many factory farms where 25 billion human babies per year are
> "processed" to be sold for a profit, and then eaten.

> David G Fisher



> > Oh come now David, I would hope it is obvious :)

> > I am just hoping you are consistent in your beliefs.



> > > Why do you want to know that?
> > > --
> > > David G Fisher



> > > > David, do you also support ***?



> > > > > We don't push our views on anyone. As a matter of fact, the policy
I
> > > > decided
> > > > > on is to not even bother with words (debate) because it's
generally
> a
> > > > waste
> > > > > of time. We really don't need to say a word. The videos show the
> > truth,
> > > > and
> > > > > it's more important to get these videos in front of millions of
eyes
> > > than
> > > > to
> > > > > waste time debating facts with a tiny % of people who won't ever
> admit
> > > to
> > > > > the truth, no matter what the facts are. There's always been
people
> > like
> > > > > that, and there always will be. Genetic defect I guess. :-) I
won't
> > even
> > > > > waste five minutes debating with those types of people. I just let
> > them
> > > > yell
> > > > > at the images like some kind of maniac. :-) You should see them,
> it's
> > > > really
> > > > > very funny actually.

> > > > > As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in
a
> > > "big
> > > > > way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn
> > their
> > > > > heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We
> are
> > > just
> > > > > giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully
> hidden
> > > > from
> > > > > them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's
> certainly
> > > > > nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic,
> and
> > > > making
> > > > > them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

> > > > > There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through
> > > > corporations
> > > > > are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are
> > > horriffic.
> > > > > They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls.
We
> > try
> > > to
> > > > > make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the
> > lying
> > > > > scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations
have
> > > spent
> > > > > hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure
> > that
> > > > > brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully
> > > > constructed,
> > > > > cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and
> > > > children
> > > > > the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures
> from
> > > > > inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and
> > nothing
> > > > > more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's
> > who've
> > > > > been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

> > > > > The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no
idea"
> > > after
> > > > > seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the
> country
> > > and
> > > > as
> > > > > visible as possible very soon.

> > > > > Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have
> trouble
> > > > with
> > > > > truth/reality. :-)

> > > > > --
> > > > > David G Fisher



> > > > > > Good for you Dave (and all the other vegans) but Imp a carnivore
> and
> > > > aunt
> > > > > no
> > > > > > movie ever gonna change that.  Rabbit food is just that...

> > > > > > I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone
else
> > > > pushing
> > > > > > their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and
Joseph
> > > > Goebles
> > > > > > do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

> > > > > > Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already
and
> we
> > > > sure
> > > > > > don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed
> with
> > > > > ***,
> > > > > > whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a
revolution
> > :)

> > > > > > Man, you sure you're not from California?

> > > > > > Mitch





> > > > > > > > Ban people for poking fun at a dead cat ? You must be a real
> gas
> > > to
> > > > > hang
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > with.
> > > > > > > >  You a veggie, or do you cry when you eat a chicken salad
> > sandwich
> > > ?
> > > > > > > >  Lighten up, Francis.

> > > > > > > I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

> > > > > > > I also created an organization which (among other things)
shows
> > > people
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals
> > suffer
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > > each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still
> > images
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > inside those torture chambers.

> > > > > > > People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth,
> and
> > > > > realize
> > > > > > > that they are responsible.

> > > > > > > Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David G Fisher


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