rec.autos.simulators

Delighted with progress they returned to work on the recipe only to find
that existing production was incapable of processing the food before the
ingredients had gone off. The finishing touches were added to the
transporter whilst waiting for technological developments in food processing
hardware.

Meanwhile Spooky being fairly computer savvy managed to order some tins of
salmon using one of the guys' credit cards left lying around. Unfortunately
as none of the Wests were called Jonathan the shipment was turned away
leaving the poor cat to starve.

I'm a "veggie". Don't like it? Too bad.

I also created an organization which (among other things) shows people the
nightmarish lives and horrific deaths that 25 billion animals suffer through
each year in the U.S. on factory farms, using video and still images from
inside those torture chambers.

People sometimes vomit on themselves when they see the truth, and realize
that they are responsible.

Coming soon to a state, city, town, ball game near you.
--
David G Fisher

I make my own personal decisions period and don't need anyone else pushing
their views on me and others.  This is what Mike Moore and Joseph Goebles
do/did and I don't buy that sorta propaganda.

Regular guys like me are being pushed from every side already and we sure
don't need any more.  Cigs, Gays, SUV's, they tried and failed with ***,
whats next?  Outlaw McDonalds?  That's when we'll see a revolution :)

Man, you sure you're not from California?

Mitch

As I said, we don't push anything on people. We show the videos in a "big
way" in the most prominent of places, but someone can simply turn their
heads a few degrees and look away if they don't want to watch. We are just
giving those who do want to see the truth that's been carefully hidden from
them throughout their entire lives, a way to do so. There's certainly
nothing wrong with that. Uncovering the truth/facts on any topic, and making
them available, is the most important thing someone can do.

There are a bunch of scumbags who both individually and through corporations
are making a ton of money by doing things to animals which are horriffic.
They only get away with it is because they hide it behind walls. We try to
make those walls transparent. They get away with it because of the lying
scumbags we have in our government who sponsor it. Corporations have spent
hundreds of billions over decades brainwashing people (making sure that
brainwashing occurs during their childhood btw), with carefully constructed,
cute, funny commercials and adverti***ts. We show men, women and children
the hard truth (as awful as it is) with videos and still pictures from
inside those hell chambers that can't be debated. Pure truth and nothing
more. The meat industry are the ones (among others) are the one's who've
been "pushing" on you, and have been for decades.

The overwhelming majority feel upset, angry and say "I had no idea" after
seeing these videos. That's why we plan on being all over the country and as
visible as possible very soon.

Just turn your heads if you have a sensitive stomach, and have trouble with
truth/reality. :-)

--
David G Fisher

Ramble coming...

It might not change you from meat eater to vegetarian, but it might change
your purchasing decisions (or not).  Industrial farming is a much deeper
problem than "simply" causing grief for the animals.  It is rather quickly
eroding our ability to have sustainable crop production (the "our" being a
collective, global term, as problems range from drying out underground
aquefiers in Texas to salinating topsoil in Australia).  I'm a meat eater,
but I buy my meat from a local farmer, and I know how he treats his animals
and I know how he works his crops.  I pay more for it, but it's simply a
conscious decision to support those who are working to improve the
situation.  If I did not have a local farmer (if I lived in a city for
example) I could still buy organic-labelled food which guarantees the
producer follows certain standards for animal care and for crop use.  My
parents' heads spin when they visit us and see that we pay anywhere up to
200% more for meat compared to Canada, but one can turn the argument around
and ask if it's really so wise to support an agricultural system which
artificially presses prices down and sells chicken for pennies a pound.
Everyone loses with this system; the farmers, the consumers (hormones,
sub-standard quality) and the nation.

The only reason I made the decision to switch my buying habits was because
of reading a few books like "Diet for a Small Planet", or seeing
documentaries about agricultural practices which I didn't know about.
There's a fine line between someone "pushing their views on me and others"
and educating.  A little education is a good thing, and it would be helpful
if everyone could think outside the box and look beyond the styropore tray.
Again, it's not about a m***decision to eat meat or not, it's just about
following the logical thread of one's actions to the end point.

Stephen

It's easy to say there are bigger issues to worry about than this, but
when a morally corrupt way of life is built into society I think it
affects us all in one way or another, whether that BSE, stress hormones in
our meat, or just the shame in the eyes of our kids when they find out
what we've been feeding them.

Messy subject really. Which is why it's easy for most folk to ignore it
completely... like all difficult subjects I suppose.

Andrew McP

thanks for your interesting post. May I suggest Dan Quinn's book
"Ishmael" to you? He has some very interesting ideas just how
totalitarian agriculture brought us were we are right now ("us" being
the global taker culture as he puts it to which 99.999 of all humans
belong to at the moment).

Some of his stuff can be had online at http://www.ishmael.org/

Cheers,
Uwe

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I think that animals don't have the same level of mental processes as
humans, and too often we unfairly project how we as humans would feel
if we were in their shoes when they suffer.  Still, pets are dear
family members to some and their deaths effect the family.  Respect
that.  Or don't.  Your call.

You trying to tell me that it's a *bad* thing to know that cigarettes
are bad for you?  And what's the "gay" inclusion about?  You
homophobic?  Not comfortable enough with your own ***lity to live
and let live...?

Head in the sand.  That's the answer...

Mitch

:)

-Will

-Larry

-Larry