rec.autos.simulators

by **ymenar** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Exactly, and that's where we should stop in how far we actually go David.
This has been the common practice for number of years. How do you think
some Americans saw how RC2000 was? They got it illegally before they decided
to buy it or not. Same goes for GPL, SCGT, GP500, SBK2000, <insert a good
majority of titles>.

Still, people did not publicly promoted the usage of that. I have never,
ever seen somebody post an URL for a site until this weekend. Or post an
URL for direct patches, information about it, etc.. Let's go back to my
first paragraph.

If people are DUMB enough to not know where to get stuff, then they don't
disserve to discuss with us. And they show that my signature file can
sometimes have a little of truth in it <g>

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Tim Vanhe** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

When you're called Crammond, Noonan, Kaemmer,... you're holy around here. EA
hasn't got that status. <G>

by **Cliff Roma** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Back to my statement

"When certain people want something bad enough, they
will make up excuses on why it is ok to do it, no matter
how wrong it is"

> > If they honestly wanted to just "test" it, they would wait for the Demo
to
> > come out. That is the reason the companies put out demos, to allow you
to
> > test.

> If many of these companies had the sense that Papy did with GPL &
> release the demo *before* the retail version hits the shelves, you'd
> have a valid point. It's rather pointless for them to release the demo
> afterwards. Most people don't wait that long.

> --
> Chuck Kandler #70
> K&S Racing
> http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195

> Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at:
> http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun!

> They'll call you names
> And spit in your face,
> But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

by **Stif** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You of all people should shut your yap. You preach anti piracy yet you seem
to know where to get it all and even participate in it. I sit in the same
section as you at the GP in Montreal. I would love to give you a good boot
in the ass. You are THE most pompous, arrogant person in this NG.
How dare you flame people for piracy when you are doing the same thing as
them.
You should be ashamed of yourself ymenard.
Al Stiff

> > It's strange, I am very against warez, but at the same time I am
> absolutely
> > sure that people here at r.a.s. do buy the games they like. If there's
one
> > place where the downloading of warez serves the same purpose as a demo,
> then
> > I really believe it's here.

> Exactly, and that's where we should stop in how far we actually go David.
> This has been the common practice for number of years. How do you think
> some Americans saw how RC2000 was? They got it illegally before they
decided
> to buy it or not. Same goes for GPL, SCGT, GP500, SBK2000, <insert a good
> majority of titles>.

> Still, people did not publicly promoted the usage of that. I have never,
> ever seen somebody post an URL for a site until this weekend. Or post an
> URL for direct patches, information about it, etc.. Let's go back to my
> first paragraph.

> If people are DUMB enough to not know where to get stuff, then they don't
> disserve to discuss with us. And they show that my signature file can
> sometimes have a little of truth in it <g>

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.WeRace.net
> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Mrv** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

In your eyes it is wrong. Most of us don't share your sentiments. We have
been burnt in that past with garbage software. F1-2000 is another title for
the garbage, Swooshhhhhh..

> Back to my statement

> "When certain people want something bad enough, they
> will make up excuses on why it is ok to do it, no matter
> how wrong it is"

> > > If they honestly wanted to just "test" it, they would wait for the Demo
> to
> > > come out. That is the reason the companies put out demos, to allow you
> to
> > > test.

> > If many of these companies had the sense that Papy did with GPL &
> > release the demo *before* the retail version hits the shelves, you'd
> > have a valid point. It's rather pointless for them to release the demo
> > afterwards. Most people don't wait that long.

> > --
> > Chuck Kandler #70
> > K&S Racing
> > http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195

> > Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at:
> > http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun!

> > They'll call you names
> > And spit in your face,
> > But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

by **Dan Belch** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I downloaded the beta warez of it and plan on buying it as soon as possible,
that being the first day it hits the shelves of my local stores.

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://simcrashes.cjb.net

by **Macc** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

woopy do for you. How unlucky youve bought games which are shit. We all
have done. I doubt that there is one person in the world who has bought
over 10-15 games that he has been 100% happy with.
Read the reviews, if the reviews are shit, then dont get it. There is no
excuse to download a full game before it is released other than selfishness
and greed

by **The Enigmatic O** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Wow. You are one conceited ***, aren't you?

No reason to avoid purchasing an inferior product other than
selfishness and greed? Do you actually think we owe it to software companies
to buy their products no matter what the quality?

-Tim

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

The NG may not have a collective conscience but it's also blatantly obvious
that some people here are all-singing, all-dancing hypocrites. If it is
legally, and morally, wrong to use a ripped copy of one product, it is
equally wrong to use a ripped copy of -ALL- products.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> Nonsense. It's obviously just different people, some who are against
> hacking Noonan's converter, and others who download "warez". This NG does
> not have a collective conscience.

> -A

> > > It's called hypocrisy

> > Indeed. I like the way they all try and justify it too.

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

What is this rubbish that you are waffling?
How many retailers these days will -NOT- accept a return? If you buy the
product openly and honestly and then return it you are (a) not losing out on
the deal and (b) sending a message to the publisher that the product is not
to your liking.

No matter what you say to try to justify it, downloading warez is stealing.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> I think the worst of all is the people who download the ISO version.
Cause what
> it is a pure one to one CD image, for them to burn their own copy. That's
> taking it too far in my opinion. I'm enjoying the game so far, with
horiable
> hills and bumps included. It's on my list to purchace, and hipefuly in
1-2
> weeks when it's released It'll also be in my hands. Me and hopefuly
others also
> think "Download it to try it, don't like it? Delete it. Like it? Show
your
> gratitude and buy it

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

YOU are overlooking the fact (conveniently) that, whilst your actions may
hurt EA, they can also -severely- hurt the contractor....ISI. Kill them and
you kill any posssibility of further developments, even if they un-link with
EA.

Is that your intent?
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> >What about ISI?

> >David G Fisher

> Good point, Dave, but unfortunately they are hooked up
> with one of the most consumer-non-friendly, lying game
> producers that ever existed.

> Nah, when it comes to EA Sports, I have to say that I haven't
> a lot of respect for them. They PO'd a LOT of people with their
> shenanigans on the EA/NR forum. Did you ever go there when
> the NR fiasco was in full swing?

> I say feed 'em fishheads... ;)

> Just a point here. For me, I have removed it from my drive
> at this point and have no intention of reinstalling it until some
> REAL patches are -available-, from either EA Sports or the
> 3rd parties, such as those at GTInsider. At that time I will
> check it out with my warez copy and if it is good, I will
> buy it, delete the warez copy and add it to my collection
> of 200-300 purchased games. I will not copy it for anyone.

> Other than that, I guess I don't know what to say.. ;)

> >> So to sum up, I won't get burned by EA Sports ever again,
> >> and had -no- qualms about checking out their latest game.

> >> They owe me.

> >> If you don't want to try out F1-2000, then don't download it.

> --
> * rrev at mindspring dot com
> * unit.26 - s.p.u.t.u.m.
> * http://www.cabal.net

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

"Most of us"???
And exactly what do you base that conclusion on......tossing bits of straw
up into the air and seeing which way the wind blows them?

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

What was that...a conscience post?

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

by **David Kar** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Silly Rabbit,

He's not flaming actual piracy; he's trying to limit the discussion of it
and the public posting of where-to-gets in this NG. Take a flipping pill
and keep your jackboots on the ground.

--DK

by **Stiff on** » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Silly rabbit tricks are for kids! He does flame people for piracy. Calling
people cheap skates for not buying the "demo" Daytona or N2 to get Pocono.
Very hypocritical! Just look around this NG and see the way he cuts people
up for looking for a freebee, yet he goes and downloads a pirate version of
a game. Pot calling the kettle black I'd say. I dont give two shits either
way but I can't stand seeing a guy knocking someone for stealing when he's
doing the same thing. I used to respect him but now I see he's just an
***.
Give your head a shake Dave it's up your ass................

> Silly Rabbit,

> He's not flaming actual piracy; he's trying to limit the discussion of it
> and the public posting of where-to-gets in this NG. Take a flipping pill
> and keep your jackboots on the ground.

> --DK

> > You of all people should shut your yap. You preach anti piracy yet you
> seem
> > to know where to get it all and even participate in it. I sit in the
same
> > section as you at the GP in Montreal. I would love to give you a good
boot
> > in the ass. You are THE most pompous, arrogant person in this NG.
> > How dare you flame people for piracy when you are doing the same thing
as
> > them.
> > You should be ashamed of yourself ymenard.
> > Al Stiff

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