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Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

Greg Cisk

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


IMHO it never stops. It just pauses :-0)

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Greg Cisk

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> Well IMO, F1 2000 is getting a bum rap. I ran it on a P3 500 fine if I

> But, you are corect it is a bit of a pig and hopefully they will
> improve that in the next version. Apart from that, and a couple of
> niggles, it is a top rate simulation.

<pumpfist>

YES!!!

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:-)

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Greg Cisk

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Yes the description for the reccomended machine on the
box is very poor. But the game itself is awesome.

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jbo..

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by jbo.. » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00

As I pointed out, "Granted, the question itself is lacking, but have
the decency to ask for more info before popping off with the standard
"GPL" response."

Again, is this person asking an academic question, or are they looking
for advice on what to buy?  If this person is looking for advice on
what F1 sim to buy but they only have a system with an ATI video card,
for example, with no Rendition or Voodoo support, is "GPL" STILL a
valid answer to this person's question??

Something for us all to think about when newbies come asking questions
like this.  When these kinds of questions come along, they're usually
from people looking for insightful advice, not personal preferences.
Yes, we all may prefer GPL to a lot of other sims, and GPL may be more
realistic, but does that make it the BEST F1 sim?  Is GPL really
graphically superior to F1WGP, for example?  Does GPL do a better job
of modeling the new USGP track at Indy than F1 2000?  Is the Minardi
team modeled more realistically in GPL than it is in MGPRS?

See my point?

Again, the original question was indeed poorly-stated, but that alone
doesn't mean that we should respond with what may well be bad advice
for the person asking the question.

-- JB




> > It's this kind of simplistic GPL-centric BS that really honks me
off.
> > Yes, GPL is great, but this is NOT a valid answer for the question
> > being asked.

> Why isn't it ?  Look at the subject header.

> "Whay is the best F1 sim".

> Well sorry but GPL is the only answer at the moment.  Now if the
person
> specified his choice with the era he wants, or how realistic he
accords to
> somethings (physics, graphics, AI, multiplayer, track accuracy,
etc..), then
> a different answer could had happen.  But to this simple question?
GPL is a
> valid answer.

> -- Yeah yeah I see your point btw...
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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Greg Cisk

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00



> > It's this kind of simplistic GPL-centric BS that really honks me off.
> > Yes, GPL is great, but this is NOT a valid answer for the question
> > being asked.

> Why isn't it ?  Look at the subject header.

Why isn't it? I'll tell you why.

*PLONK*

There no more problems :-)

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Thomas M?rlun

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Thomas M?rlun » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Pay to pray - but GPL's quite cheap
Get it!



> Amen.



> > Grand Prix Legends.

Thomas M?rlun

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Thomas M?rlun » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00

That is NO excuse for putting out a piece of junk like F12000.
BTW, when you say top notch simulation, I guess you're not referring to AI
cars crashing out on formation laps and deliberately trying to pass you...
THROUGH you!

I had quite high hopes for this, but the only good thing to come out of the
box was the Indianapolis track (to experience it).

Thomas / FrenZy00

don hodgdo

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by don hodgdo » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> No, no, no NO, NO, NO!!!  This is WAY too simplistic of an answer, and
> also potentially a GREAT disservice.  What era is this individual
> insterested in?  What are his system specs -- does he have Rendition or
> Voodoo capabilities?  Is he interested in the most realistic F1 sim, or
> does he just want to get a feel for what it's like to run the F1
> courses before or after each race, just for the flavor?

> It's this kind of simplistic GPL-centric BS that really honks me off.
> Yes, GPL is great, but this is NOT a valid answer for the question
> being asked.

> Granted, the question itself is lacking, but have the decency to ask
> for more info before popping off with the standard "GPL" response.

> -- JB



> > Grand Prix Legends.

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> Before you buy.

You know, I sleep better at night knowing we have John to critique our
responses for us.

don

Q

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Q » Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I thought he was just asking for all our opinions on what the best F1 sim
was...I didn't know he was interested in buying a new F1 sim...
jbo..

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by jbo.. » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Believe it or not, Greg, I think we're in agreement on this one -- I
find the physics in F12K to be very satisfying.  It is somewhat
hardware-intensive, and I have no experience at all with running
against the AI at this point, but all in all, I like what I've sampled
so far with regards to the driving model.

Seems like as long as we steer clear of the IRL/CART issues, we can
find other things to agree on!

;-)

-- JB




>  > I'd watch out with F1-2000 for two reasons.

>  > 1.. Generally it hasn't been well received (here or in reviews)

> CGW gave it 4.5 out of 5 stars. F1 Racing magazine from
> Britan gave a comparision of all F1 computer games. PC
> and console games. F1 2000 was tops. Period.

>  > 2.. It's one of those games which needs a state of the art PC to
run.

> Yep.

>  > (yet, they fail to communicate this on the specifications panel - I
>  hate
>  > that)

> Yep.

> > Your best bet bet might be to buy an older game like
>  > Grand Prix 2 or Monaco GP 2 at a budget price - these will at least
>  > run smoothly on more average hardware - and smooth running is
>  > vital for a good F1 sim, perhaps more so than other types of
driving.

> This might be OK if the person has a P5 or 486 (for GP2) or a really
> slow P2 or P3. If the person has a P3-500+ and 128MB of ram with
> some sort of 3dfx card, then F1 2000 is it. Sorry ;-)

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>  > Also, GP 3 is being promised (end July? Christmas? not sure.)

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jbo..

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by jbo.. » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Well, actually, for all I know the guy may have been settling a bet
that if he asked what the best F1 sim was here in the RAS newsgroup,
the answer would be GPL . . . <G>

I don't know in fact WHAT kind of answer Mr. Pete Johnson was looking
for when he posted that question, but my point is, neither did the rest
of you, yet the FIRST response (and the first two follow-ups) indicated
that "Grand Prix Legends" was it, period, end of story, no further
questions, Your Honor.

I probably made a bigger deal out of it than was necessary, but are we
a newsgroup here, or are we The International GPL Mutual Admiration
Society?

Uh, come to think of it, never mind that last question . . .

;-)

-- JB



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Iain Mackenzi

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Iain Mackenzi » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Don't know where that info came from. It was well received in most reviews
in the UK - for what that is worth - and it is regarded generally on this NG
as the best modern F1 sim at the moment despite not being perfect by any
means.
Iain
Iain Mackenzi

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Iain Mackenzi » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Yawn, yawn, here we go again.  Have you installed the 1.06 patch and are you
running the cars at 100% or greater?
Iain


Jo Hels

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Jo Hels » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:59:12 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"


>Yawn, yawn, here we go again.  Have you installed the 1.06 patch and are you
>running the cars at 100% or greater?
>Iain

Hmmm.... Not that I want to make F12000 even worse  :-)  , but what's
the use of all the included help-functions if those newbies get lapped
after a quarter of a race (since they HAVE to run opposition at 100%
or higher)

GP3 will not be perfect (it will be shot down by many in r.a.s. no
doubt), but THAT will never ever happen to it.

JoH

Brett C. Camma

Whay is the Best F1 Sim?

by Brett C. Camma » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

What say we all just hang back from now on answering these sorts of
questions until YOU give your considered opinion?   Sheesh...  

A whole bunch of people happen to think that GPL *is* the best F1 sim
to-date and if somebody asks, that will be their answer.  Too bad
you've got a problem with that, but that's what life in the real world
is like.  You should try and get used to it...

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL


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