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by **Mitch Alatorr** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:04:13

I vote Run Sears :)

> > If you're really asking, NO. Let's not run Sears Point :)

> > I'm not sure that would be an enjoyable experience for us, considering
what
> > we're trying to get out of this...

> I'm a road course nutter, I despise the current Sears Point layout, its
> utter ***for N2002 cars, there's no "flow" to the track now, all you
> seem to do is wrestle with the car all the time

> Oh well, I don't have time to race either way

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by **John Simmon** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:10:02

> >I just want to verify that Sears Point is the track for next week ???

> >This aughta be interesting... :)

> Do you guys really want to run Sears again? I can't even complete a lap there,
> so it doesn't matter to me...<g>

> Eldred

I think we should stick to the cup schedule. Just because it's hard
doesn't mean it's not gonna be any fun...

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by **Joachim Trens** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:23:44

Nonsense, Sears swings - and rocks ;-)

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by **grubba** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:33:41

I seem to do better at the road courses with the outside view. I tried it
sittin in the car and i cant even complete 2 laps.

by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:32:38

It's not that it's hard. The NASCAR cars handle like boats in mud on that
track, and clearly aren't designed for road course racing. It's slow and
tedious at SP. Not hard.

Also, as I mentioned to Eldred in another thread, if we follow the real cup
schedule, we are soon going to repeat tracks we've just recently run, some
for the third time while there are others that we haven't run yet. We've
even run SP already.

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> > >I just want to verify that Sears Point is the track for next week ???

> > >This aughta be interesting... :)

> > Do you guys really want to run Sears again? I can't even complete a lap
there,
> > so it doesn't matter to me...<g>

> > Eldred

> I think we should stick to the cup schedule. Just because it's hard
> doesn't mean it's not gonna be any fun...

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:53:34

While I agree the default setups are not brilliant (I like the intermediate
setup best, actually), the cars themselves are not that bad at this track.
It takes a bit of adjusting from the usual roadcourse style (car doesn't
respond as quick as a single seater), but once you start "going with the
flow" as it were, they're pretty satisfying to drive at Sears Point, IMO.

True, on the other hand, might be good to try and gel as a group on known
ground.

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:14:58

>I say skip it. We already did it once anyway. To be blunt, the NASCAR cars
>handle like shit there. It's like forcing a square peg into a round hole.
>What's the point?

They handle like shit *everywhere*...<g>

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:14:58

>> Do you guys really want to run Sears again? I can't even complete a lap
>there,
>> so it doesn't matter to me...<g>

>> Eldred

>As an aside - now that Silverstone can be converted from GPL to N2002, what
>are the chances of running there sometime? (Or anywhere else converted from
>GPL in the future?)

I'd say it's *possible*, but it's not high on my list... :-)

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by **Brian Oste** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:42:24

>> >I just want to verify that Sears Point is the track for next week ???

>> >This aughta be interesting... :)

>> Do you guys really want to run Sears again? I can't even complete a lap there,
>> so it doesn't matter to me...<g>

>> Eldred

>I think we should stick to the cup schedule. Just because it's hard
>doesn't mean it's not gonna be any fun...

I agree. I REALLY suck at the road courses and Sears Point is my
least favorite track but I have to vote to run it. There will always
be tracks that some people hate and others like. Turn off the yellows
for this one though. If we are going to run it lets make the decision
soon because I will need a lot more than my usual 15-30 min of
off-line practice. Takes a while to remember how to use my left
foot... :)

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:04:32

>Nonsense, Sears ... rocks ;-)

I think you misspelled "sucks"...<g>

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by **Peter Ive** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:28:36

>>> >I just want to verify that Sears Point is the track for next week ???

>>> >This aughta be interesting... :)

>>> Do you guys really want to run Sears again? I can't even complete a lap
>there,
>>> so it doesn't matter to me...<g>

>>> Eldred

>>I think we should stick to the cup schedule. Just because it's hard
>>doesn't mean it's not gonna be any fun...

>I agree. I REALLY suck at the road courses and Sears Point is my
>least favorite track but I have to vote to run it. There will always
>be tracks that some people hate and others like. Turn off the yellows
>for this one though. If we are going to run it lets make the decision
>soon because I will need a lot more than my usual 15-30 min of
>off-line practice. Takes a while to remember how to use my left
>foot... :)

And not blow the tyres. :)

I gravitated from GPL and had expected, after giving the old AI a good
tonking on the ovals, that SP was going to be my Piece de resistance, or
somesuch. Anyway, I couldn't even get under 1:24 whilst the AI were
cruising around in the 1:21's. It really does take so much more
practice to understand how to go fast on this track.
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by **Eldre** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:36:34

>I agree. I REALLY suck at the road courses and Sears Point is my
>least favorite track but I have to vote to run it. There will always
>be tracks that some people hate and others like. Turn off the yellows
>for this one though. If we are going to run it lets make the decision
>soon because I will need a lot more than my usual 15-30 min of
>off-line practice. Takes a while to remember how to use my left
>foot... :)

There seem to be only 1 or 2 dissenting opinions. So, we run Sears Point -
40%, no yellows.
Ugh - I can hardly wait... :-)

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:04:30

Resist the urge to go deep into the slower turns... let it flow Peter. Guy
like you should do 1m22's without braking a sweat.

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:05:46

Sweet!!

Jan. ;-)
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by **Goy Larse** » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:24:26

> Nonsense, Sears swings - and rocks ;-)

That it does .... constantly

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