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N3 Video

JimOa

N3 Video

by JimOa » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Is it just me or was 15 seconds of the Papyrus logo a bit much. That
could have cut down alot of download time.
ymenar

N3 Video

by ymenar » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

JimOaks wrote

It's actually 31 (yes count it...  one... two... three... thirty-one)
seconds of the Papyrus logo. After being spoiled by the Incredible 3 GPL
movies :

- Monza duel
- F1 car heads into a fence and starts to flips
- Watkins Glen full lap in-car

Im sorry but this is totally unacceptable.  No car sound and very bad
compression creates blocky and low-resolution.  You people never heard of
MPEG compression ? I downloaded the full two minute DVD quality Star Wars :
Episode 1 trailer. Don't tell me you couldn't do this correctly ! Sorry but
this is not near the Papyrus-quality.

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Cowen Wilso

N3 Video

by Cowen Wilso » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

I can't believe you people..  Complaining about a video of a great game
coming...  Can we pick anything else to complain about????  It's just a
freakin' video..  A beta video at that...

Cowen


>Couldn't agree more. It seems our friends pushed this out the door as
>an 'afterthought' to hit a deadline after playing at Daytona.

>-Richard



>>JimOaks wrote
>>>Is it just me or was 15 seconds of the Papyrus logo a bit much. That
>>>could have cut down alot of download time.

>>It's actually 31 (yes count it...  one... two... three... thirty-one)
>>seconds of the Papyrus logo. After being spoiled by the Incredible 3 GPL
>>movies :

>>- Monza duel
>>- F1 car heads into a fence and starts to flips
>>- Watkins Glen full lap in-car

>>Im sorry but this is totally unacceptable.  No car sound and very bad
>>compression creates blocky and low-resolution.  You people never heard of
>>MPEG compression ? I downloaded the full two minute DVD quality Star Wars
:
>>Episode 1 trailer. Don't tell me you couldn't do this correctly ! Sorry
but
>>this is not near the Papyrus-quality.

>>-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
>>-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
>>-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
>>-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
>>-= May the Downforce be with you...

>>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

ymenar

N3 Video

by ymenar » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Cowen Wilson wrote

People know here Im a total pro-Papyrus  fanatic here Cowen but...

Life is not perfect.

With the incredible quality of the preview Movies they had for GPL  this is
totally unnacceptable especially with the low compression of the movie
quality, considering that the MPEG quality of some QuickTime tools make for
DVD-quality movies for the same size (15megs = 2mins).

Of course, I know from facts and more than just the teaser + screenshots
about N3 and be sure that there is nothing to be nervous about the title.
Remember that Nascar Racing 3 was actually raced (not just previewed) at
Daytona... and some people saw it.

But it's very bad for their marketing to put such a bad movie as it will
also be probably put on the monthly *** magazine CD's, and downloaded by
the mass gamers who will say "why 31 seconds of the Papyrus logo ???"

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

ymenar

N3 Video

by ymenar » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Ben Coleman wrote

Most of them are not active r.a.s.ers, but are more part of the NROS
community.  They were the top8 Nascar Racing Online Series finalist who went
to the Daytona International Speedway to race for the first Nascar
sanctioned online championship.  There is more than this, but of course it
is a reason I was hoping for a little more than this low-quality video.

Hahahaha ;-D

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Mike Dun

N3 Video

by Mike Dun » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

<A beta video at that...

Cowen>

LOL..I didn't know they make beta videos..mabey I can start testing them
too<G>

Mike Dunn

Brian Shor

N3 Video

by Brian Shor » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Where did you get a DVD quality Star Wars Ep Trailer?  I'd like to grab that
:-)

Brian Short

Brian Shor

N3 Video

by Brian Shor » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Nevermind, I found what you are talking about... God I love Quicktime 3 :-)
Now, suggestion for Papyrus...
    For your next .mov you release of Nascar 3, please encode it in Quicktime 3.
You get a LOT higher quality in a LOT less space.  For comparison, grab the new
QT3 version of the Star Wars Trailer, and compare it agains the original 24 meg
Quicktime.
    The Nascar 3 movie could have been 2/3 of the size or less, and over twice
the resolution, with higher quality sound :-)

Brian Short


> Where did you get a DVD quality Star Wars Ep Trailer?  I'd like to grab that
> :-)

> Brian Short

> > >>Im sorry but this is totally unacceptable.  No car sound and very bad
> > >>compression creates blocky and low-resolution.  You people never heard of
> > >>MPEG compression ? I downloaded the full two minute DVD quality Star Wars
> > :
> > >>Episode 1 trailer. Don't tell me you couldn't do this correctly ! Sorry
> > but
> > >>this is not near the Papyrus-quality.

> > >>-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
> > >>-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
> > >>-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
> > >>-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
> > >>-= May the Downforce be with you...

> > >>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> > >>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Tim Yuhas

N3 Video

by Tim Yuhas » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00


>Is it just me or was 15 seconds of the Papyrus logo a bit much. That
>could have cut down alot of download time.

The part I loved was," Available Fall 99". 3 seasons away,how bout that.

Mr.V

Richard Sco

N3 Video

by Richard Sco » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Couldn't agree more. It seems our friends pushed this out the door as
an 'afterthought' to hit a deadline after playing at Daytona.

-Richard



Ben Colema

N3 Video

by Ben Colema » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00


>Of course, I know from facts and more than just the teaser + screenshots
>about N3 and be sure that there is nothing to be nervous about the title.
>Remember that Nascar Racing 3 was actually raced (not just previewed) at
>Daytona... and some people saw it.

Maybe someone here who saw it can comment?

Ah, but all this whining over a video...of course, seeing as it is issued by
Papy, the video would be optimised for Rendition, and no doubt the whiners
are trying to run it in 3dfx or software....</tic>

Ben

Richard Sco

N3 Video

by Richard Sco » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Hmmm, complaining about people complaining??

Pot -> Kettle :)

-Richard

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:02:34 -0500, "Cowen Wilson"


>I can't believe you people..  Complaining about a video of a great game
>coming...  Can we pick anything else to complain about????  It's just a
>freakin' video..  A beta video at that...

>Cowen



>>Couldn't agree more. It seems our friends pushed this out the door as
>>an 'afterthought' to hit a deadline after playing at Daytona.

>>-Richard



>>>JimOaks wrote
>>>>Is it just me or was 15 seconds of the Papyrus logo a bit much. That
>>>>could have cut down alot of download time.

>>>It's actually 31 (yes count it...  one... two... three... thirty-one)
>>>seconds of the Papyrus logo. After being spoiled by the Incredible 3 GPL
>>>movies :

>>>- Monza duel
>>>- F1 car heads into a fence and starts to flips
>>>- Watkins Glen full lap in-car

>>>Im sorry but this is totally unacceptable.  No car sound and very bad
>>>compression creates blocky and low-resolution.  You people never heard of
>>>MPEG compression ? I downloaded the full two minute DVD quality Star Wars
>:
>>>Episode 1 trailer. Don't tell me you couldn't do this correctly ! Sorry
>but
>>>this is not near the Papyrus-quality.

>>>-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
>>>-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
>>>-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
>>>-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
>>>-= May the Downforce be with you...

>>>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>>>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

John Walla

N3 Video

by John Walla » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:02:34 -0500, "Cowen Wilson"


>I can't believe you people..  Complaining about a video of a great game
>coming...  Can we pick anything else to complain about????  It's just a
>freakin' video..  A beta video at that...

It's a "freakin video" that costs quite a lot of money to download.
What's a "beta video" anyway - is a full release version coming along
soon?

Cheers!
John

Anthony Bullo

N3 Video

by Anthony Bullo » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:02:34 -0500, "Cowen Wilson"


>I can't believe you people..  Complaining about a video of a great game
>coming...  Can we pick anything else to complain about????  It's just a
>freakin' video..  A beta video at that...

Where is the moderator for this group?? If this guy is going to start
talking about Beatmax video again I'm off. That was the worst damn
electronic purchase I ever made  ;)

AB

Cowen Wilso

N3 Video

by Cowen Wilso » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Like I said, we all have to complain about something, otherwise nobody is
happy :-)

Cowen


>Hmmm, complaining about people complaining??

>Pot -> Kettle :)

>-Richard

>On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:02:34 -0500, "Cowen Wilson"

>>I can't believe you people..  Complaining about a video of a great game
>>coming...  Can we pick anything else to complain about????  It's just a
>>freakin' video..  A beta video at that...

>>Cowen



>>>Couldn't agree more. It seems our friends pushed this out the door as
>>>an 'afterthought' to hit a deadline after playing at Daytona.

>>>-Richard



>>>>JimOaks wrote
>>>>>Is it just me or was 15 seconds of the Papyrus logo a bit much. That
>>>>>could have cut down alot of download time.

>>>>It's actually 31 (yes count it...  one... two... three... thirty-one)
>>>>seconds of the Papyrus logo. After being spoiled by the Incredible 3 GPL
>>>>movies :

>>>>- Monza duel
>>>>- F1 car heads into a fence and starts to flips
>>>>- Watkins Glen full lap in-car

>>>>Im sorry but this is totally unacceptable.  No car sound and very bad
>>>>compression creates blocky and low-resolution.  You people never heard
of
>>>>MPEG compression ? I downloaded the full two minute DVD quality Star
Wars
>>:
>>>>Episode 1 trailer. Don't tell me you couldn't do this correctly ! Sorry
>>but
>>>>this is not near the Papyrus-quality.

>>>>-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
>>>>-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
>>>>-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
>>>>-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
>>>>-= May the Downforce be with you...

>>>>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
>>>>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."


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