rec.autos.simulators

I know I could run this on my Ti4200 at 1024x768 16bit 2xAA 2xAniso
and get reasonable framerates, so I was hoping I could do 4xAA with
the 9700.  With the above settings I get around 18-20fps in game,
which I can increase by around 20FPS by setting the shadows to Med
(which removes them and makes the cars look like they're floating -
which I can't stand).  I've tried 1280x1024 16bit with no AA, 4x Aniso
and it seems OK (~30FPS in game with other cars around).
Could someone with a similar rig post thier settings and FPS with a
9700 card?  I paid serious money for this card so I could get 4xAA in
every game and this is leaving me a little disappointed.  I've read a
few posts where it looks like I should be getting 50FPS - but at what
settings?

TIA!
Kendt

PS - I get 11,000+ 3dmark2001SE with no AA, default aniso, high mipmap
and IQ settings.

  What was the triangle score when you ran 3dconfig?
The 3dconfig utility only changes the original settings for the f1 sim.  
The gtr mod can leach some of that, but I'd compare your gtr2002config.ini
file with your newly updated config.ini file.

 here is a sample of mine.

VIDEOGUID=D7B71E3E-4141-11CF-F866-312001C2C935
GAME_DATABASE=360C.GDB
VIDEODRIVER=0
VIDEOMODE=6   <======this is your screen rez
WINDOWEDMODE=0
RUNBENCHMARKS=1
FSAA=0
VSYNC=0

    Does the videomode= line from the gtr config match the same line from
the original config ini???

GTR2002 all settings on full except pit crew.
1280 x 1024 x 32 with 2 x AA and 2 x Aniso
Fraps results for a one lap trial full field at Mugello

Highest fps = 94
Lowest = 37
Average = 56

with 3.4 Cats and XP Pro SP1

AD

Thanks again!
Kendt

A7N8X Deluxe using onboard Soundstorm Sound
Radeon 9800PRO 128 meg
1 Gig DDR 400 PC 3200
XP PRO Sp1
WD 80 Gig SE (8 meg cache)
Momo Racing Force

dave henrie

I'm running a 2400+, a 9700Pro and 1 Gb ram (PC 3500), WindowsXP.

A lap on Monza gave this:
Max 91 fps
Min 31 fps
Ave 51 fps

I used the settings you descriped in your post. I'm not sure on which
resolution you did yours, so I tried 1280x960 (I hate 1280x1024 as this is
off-scale!), 4x fsaa, 4x ani. I'm using Omega's 3,4. Oh, and btw I have
Vsync OFF.
If you are in for OC, then F12k2 really likes to get a higher FSB (and
memorybus). It seems that this gives more performance than just OC your
9700Pro-card. I run with a FSB of 191Mhz (default is 133 Mhz) on a Nforce 2
chipset with a multiplier of 11.

--

Mvh
Sven

I changed to 1280x960 32bit, 2x/2x, Performance texture settings.  In
a 35car race at Mugello, I get FPS as low as the mid-20's at the
start, maxing out in the 40's when I'm by myself.  VSync is off both
in the game settings and the control panel.  Oh BTW - 3dconfig gives
43Mtris, I think I mis-typed the first #.

Thanks!
Kendt

Bill

That sounds quite normal for so many cars on a 2100+.  With that many cars,
the CPU is definitely the bottleneck.  Try setting other vehicle detail to
'Low'  - (This doesn't make close opponents look any worse - it just makes
them look less detailed in the distance)

I just did same test with no AA and no Anis

all other details the same.

Max fps : 88
Min fps : 32
Average fps : 46

what the heck is going on..? LOL

Im a bit foxed here mate.

I put all Ati settings to Quality and that brought fps tumbling....and tbh
didnt look good enough to warrant it.

My only advice to you Kendt is not too worry,as from my experience logic
means nothing in pc land.

,(3dmark01se ,fps in games etc etc) than my brothers P4-1.6Ghz,GF4
ti4600,512 DDR 2100 and try as we did we never got to the bottom of it.

If it helps i have an Asus A7V8X Gold now...with Bios settings to Turbo.

Good luck

AD

p.s Run the Fraps report on your efforts its alot easier and obviously more
accurate :)

No kidding ;)...

Thanks to everyone for the all the advice.  I decided to get down to
it and do some serious tweaking last night.  I found that by fiddling
with my memory settings I could get another 200Mb/s out of my SiSoft
Sandra mem bandwidth scores.  I also went ahead and OC'd my 9700 a
little.
Despite the low framerates, GTR seemed quite playable, and I was
getting up to a steady 100+ FPS on test days, so I know my PC isn't
totally hosed.  And GPL with the 9700- Mmmmmmm :).
I'll check out some of the other GTR tweaks soon - I took my wheel off
the desk at 2AM and decided to play a little GTA:VC to unwind ;).

Kendt

Oh BTW - anyone having stutter problems with GTA3 and the 9700, there
is a fix!  Use SmartGART to disable AGP (makes it act like a PCI card
like the V5 did), and viola!  No stutters!  Too bad you have to reboot
every time to use it.