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Long Hawaii Setup Help

ROBERT IRWIN PLATT

Long Hawaii Setup Help

by ROBERT IRWIN PLATT » Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Hi everyone,

           I just wanted to post this note because I'm down to my last
nerve with this long setup thing.I have great short races setups and they
are fast enough for short races.But where i'm having a problem is my setups
are burning the tires up.For example at Atlanta ican qaul at 188 to 189 and
race at the same speeds until the last couple laps in a 5% race in which my
last lap is a high 186 because the car begins to push and tires are hot.But
I'm looking to run faster laps for a longer period at these tracks:
Atlanta, Char.,
Darl, and Mich.Which are 4 of my best 5 tracks.SoIf anyone canhelp me out
here it would br greatly appreciated.I need to run fast and good for 20%
races.I'm running a Ford chasis and Hoosier tires.I've tried Goodyears but
I just can't seem to get a good setup for Gy's even for short races.I'm not
looking for someone elses setup just some help onsetting cars up for 20%
races at 80degrees temp.I also seen a post on here by Jullian (Hope I
spelled it right) Data that if anyone need some help on setting cars up for
Hawaii to e-mail him but I didn't get is address before I deleted the
message.So If Mr. Data come across this note or anyone else that is willing

race tomorrow night at Darlington.Thanks in advance

Robert  
GT86

Bob Stanle

Long Hawaii Setup Help

by Bob Stanle » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Hey GT,

Theres lots of info out there on the net about this. Try The Pits
www.theuspits.com/index.htm or Bill Cranstons' Page, cant remember the
url off the top of my head. There are many others also. Anyway, here are
a couple of things I do to keep the tires longer;  I try to keep the
squeel down, Andrew White gave me a great tip about reducing the sounds
to about 60% except for tire squeel. Also, if your right sides are hot,
get as much weight as you can on the left side. You can do this by
stiffening LS shocks, Stagger, adding air pressure to RS tires, & adding
cross weight which puts more weight on LR, but also RF. You mentioned
one thing that is curious, your car begins to push after the tires start
to wear. Adding cross will hurt this situation, but adding some rear
weight and or softening the front shocks will help keep the car looser.
Remember that as you add gas your rear weight increases which loosens
the car.
I think one of the more important things to remember is; If your running
186's at Atlanta for 20%, your hauling Butt!!!! More than anything else
I've found and I'm by no means an expert, is to go fast for a longer
period of time you've got to go slower and be smooth as silk (I'll
always be working on the smooth part, I'm pretty good at going slow!). I
hope some of this helps.
BTW: I've seen guys make Hoosiers last a long time.

Bob_Stanley
Chicken Farm Racing


> Hi everyone,

>            I just wanted to post this note because I'm down to my last
> nerve with this long setup thing.I have great short races setups and they
> are fast enough for short races.But where i'm having a problem is my setups
> are burning the tires up.For example at Atlanta ican qaul at 188 to 189 and
> race at the same speeds until the last couple laps in a 5% race in which my
> last lap is a high 186 because the car begins to push and tires are hot.But
> I'm looking to run faster laps for a longer period at these tracks:
> Atlanta, Char.,
> Darl, and Mich.Which are 4 of my best 5 tracks.SoIf anyone canhelp me out
> here it would br greatly appreciated.I need to run fast and good for 20%
> races.I'm running a Ford chasis and Hoosier tires.I've tried Goodyears but
> I just can't seem to get a good setup for Gy's even for short races.I'm not
> looking for someone elses setup just some help onsetting cars up for 20%
> races at 80degrees temp.I also seen a post on here by Jullian (Hope I
> spelled it right) Data that if anyone need some help on setting cars up for
> Hawaii to e-mail him but I didn't get is address before I deleted the
> message.So If Mr. Data come across this note or anyone else that is willing

> race tomorrow night at Darlington.Thanks in advance

> Robert
> GT86


David Spark

Long Hawaii Setup Help

by David Spark » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>Hi everyone,

>           I just wanted to post this note because I'm down to my last
>nerve with this long setup thing.I have great short races setups and they
>are fast enough for short races.But where i'm having a problem is my setups
>are burning the tires up.For example at Atlanta ican qaul at 188 to 189 and
>race at the same speeds until the last couple laps in a 5% race in which my
>last lap is a high 186 because the car begins to push and tires are hot.But
>I'm looking to run faster laps for a longer period at these tracks:
>Atlanta, Char.,
>Darl, and Mich.Which are 4 of my best 5 tracks.SoIf anyone canhelp me out
>here it would br greatly appreciated.I need to run fast and good for 20%
>races.I'm running a Ford chasis and Hoosier tires.I've tried Goodyears but
>I just can't seem to get a good setup for Gy's even for short races.I'm not
>looking for someone elses setup just some help onsetting cars up for 20%
>races at 80degrees temp.I also seen a post on here by Jullian (Hope I
>spelled it right) Data that if anyone need some help on setting cars up for
>Hawaii to e-mail him but I didn't get is address before I deleted the
>message.So If Mr. Data come across this note or anyone else that is willing

>race tomorrow night at Darlington.Thanks in advance

>Robert  
>GT86


The single most important factor in tire wear is your driving. If you are
pushing the car hard, the tires will wear, even if you aren't hearing any
tire squeal. The second most important factor is keep tire temperatures
below 230 degrees and even across the tire. If your tires are running hot,
increase the air pressure and soften the shocks. Also, remember that as
your fuel runs out, your car tends to push, due to the decrease in rear
weight. This means you may have to start with a slightly loose setup so
that you don't have a bad push on the second half of the tank.

You'll find more setup tips on the Late Night website.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Don Wilsh

Long Hawaii Setup Help

by Don Wilsh » Thu, 05 Dec 1996 04:00:00



> >Hi everyone,

> >           I just wanted to post this note because I'm down to my last
> >nerve with this long setup thing.I have great short races setups and they
> >are fast enough for short races.But where i'm having a problem is my setups
> >are burning the tires up.For example at Atlanta ican qaul at 188 to 189 and
> >race at the same speeds until the last couple laps in a 5% race in which my
> >last lap is a high 186 because the car begins to push and tires are hot.But
> >I'm looking to run faster laps for a longer period at these tracks:
> >Atlanta, Char.,
> >Darl, and Mich.Which are 4 of my best 5 tracks.SoIf anyone canhelp me out
> >here it would br greatly appreciated.I need to run fast and good for 20%
> >races.I'm running a Ford chasis and Hoosier tires.I've tried Goodyears but
> >I just can't seem to get a good setup for Gy's even for short races.I'm not
> >looking for someone elses setup just some help onsetting cars up for 20%
> >races at 80degrees temp.I also seen a post on here by Jullian (Hope I
> >spelled it right) Data that if anyone need some help on setting cars up for
> >Hawaii to e-mail him but I didn't get is address before I deleted the
> >message.So If Mr. Data come across this note or anyone else that is willing

> >race tomorrow night at Darlington.Thanks in advance

> >Robert
> >GT86

> The single most important factor in tire wear is your driving. If you are
> pushing the car hard, the tires will wear, even if you aren't hearing any
> tire squeal. The second most important factor is keep tire temperatures
> below 230 degrees and even across the tire. If your tires are running hot,
> increase the air pressure and soften the shocks. Also, remember that as
> your fuel runs out, your car tends to push, due to the decrease in rear
> weight. This means you may have to start with a slightly loose setup so
> that you don't have a bad push on the second half of the tank.

> You'll find more setup tips on the Late Night website.

> Dave (davids) Sparks
> Late Night League
> http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Excellent explanation but you forget another very important
factor. STAGGER!!!!!!!!

Don Wilshe


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