rec.autos.simulators

by **Destro** » Mon, 09 May 2005 23:22:44

I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger *** screen; 30
inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various formats
- projection, LCD or plasma.

My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I always
have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of an
increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't LCD TVs
suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger than 21
inch screen ***? thanks

by **Paul GoodBa** » Tue, 10 May 2005 00:02:14

jUST GO ODWN TO YOUR LOCAL cINEMA AND PLUG YOUR pc INTO THE SCREEN :)

>I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger *** screen; 30
>inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
>thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various formats
>- projection, LCD or plasma.

>My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I always
>have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

>I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of an
>increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't LCD TVs
>suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

>Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger than 21
>inch screen ***? thanks

by **John Do** » Tue, 10 May 2005 00:22:52

What about TV output on many video cards? What's the resolution
nowadays?

> I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger ***
screen; 30
> inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
> thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various
formats
> - projection, LCD or plasma.

> My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I
always
> have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

> I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of
an
> increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't
LCD TVs
> suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

> Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger
than 21
> inch screen ***? thanks

by **schoone** » Tue, 10 May 2005 00:28:33

It would be 480i at best via svideo. Even with component out it is not
going to be super high resolution like on a PC monitor.

1080i = 1920x1080
720p = 1280x720
Wide-screen 480p (DVD, EDTV) = 852x480
Regular TV Up to 480 lines

> What about TV output on many video cards? What's the resolution
> nowadays?

>> I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger ***
> screen; 30
>> inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
>> thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various
> formats
>> - projection, LCD or plasma.

>> My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I
> always
>> have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

>> I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of
> an
>> increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't
> LCD TVs
>> suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

>> Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger
> than 21
>> inch screen ***? thanks

by **schoone** » Tue, 10 May 2005 00:30:59

Best bet is probably doing to be a 720p front projector, either DLP or LCD
for an acceptable price and large size. Or could go with a 720p/1080i RPTV
for a 50-60" screen.

720p = 1280x720
1080i = 1920x1080

by **Xocyl** » Tue, 10 May 2005 02:06:59

*** spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

There are some larger LCDs, the problem is that they're meant more for
displays than *** so they aren't very fast.

Samsung has some 46" 'Commercial LCDs'.

Well you can check out the above - whether it would have acceptable
performance for YOUR *** is something that only you could answer.

Since LCDs came out there's always someone who has no issues with aa
slower LCD while others are screaming about ghosting - rather like the
fps screaming between those that just need 25-30, and those that swear
they can see the difference between 120 fps and 125 fps.

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

by **Mitch_** » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:57:51

This reopens the great Vsync on/off debate. Although 1080i *LOOKS* on paper
to be a higher spec 720p due to it being non-interlaced (physically
refreshes every line every scan) is actually better. Just as Vsync off will
never give you 150fps if your monitor can only output a 60hz refresh rate
(no matter what fraps tells you).

You didnt mention what video card you run just that it badass ;) Does it do
HD and what connections does it have DVI?

If you insist on size over quality Id be looking for a 1080p DLP of a size
that meets your needs and budget. The reality is even this isnt going to
look very good compared to a Monitor though.

Have you looked at that Dell 24" widescreen for the $700 range? It wont be
much taller but it will be wider than your 21". Thats what Id do and wait
another couple years for the TV standards to catch up.

Mitch

> It would be 480i at best via svideo. Even with component out it is not
> going to be super high resolution like on a PC monitor.

> 1080i = 1920x1080
> 720p = 1280x720
> Wide-screen 480p (DVD, EDTV) = 852x480
> Regular TV Up to 480 lines

>> What about TV output on many video cards? What's the resolution
>> nowadays?

>>> I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger ***
>> screen; 30
>>> inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
>>> thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various
>> formats
>>> - projection, LCD or plasma.

>>> My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I
>> always
>>> have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

>>> I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of
>> an
>>> increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't
>> LCD TVs
>>> suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

>>> Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger
>> than 21
>>> inch screen ***? thanks

by **Shaw** » Tue, 10 May 2005 03:24:59

I'd second the projector suggestion. I have a 21" Dell CRT, a 17" LCD and a
projector. The 21" is great for games but playing HL2, Riddick, Far Cry or
D3 on a 5' screen cannot be beaten.

When looking for one, DLP, lumens (high), contrast ratio (high)and noise
levels (low) are the things to look at. The Raven for the x-box is the sort
of thing to look at as an example:

http://www.pcgameworld.com/article.php/id/272/

Shaun

by **schoone** » Tue, 10 May 2005 03:48:44

Check www.avsforum.com
They will have info on anything AV you might need or just ask.

>> FWIW I think you're better off getting a projector (for value for
>> money)...

> I'd second the projector suggestion. I have a 21" Dell CRT, a 17" LCD and
> a projector. The 21" is great for games but playing HL2, Riddick, Far Cry
> or D3 on a 5' screen cannot be beaten.

> When looking for one, DLP, lumens (high), contrast ratio (high)and noise
> levels (low) are the things to look at. The Raven for the x-box is the
> sort of thing to look at as an example:

> http://www.pcgameworld.com/article.php/id/272/

> Shaun

by **Steve Simpso** » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:58:08

Actually the ATI Radeons do 720p and 1080i via their TV outs (Component)
but the drivers are very buggy to say the least (especially for PAL
users) The best bet if your display doesn't have VGA inputs is to use a a
VGA->Component adapter and setup the correct resolutions with Powerstrip.

by **Charles C. Shy** » Tue, 10 May 2005 11:58:26

It sounds like you want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. Don't --
there isn't much better than a 21" CRT right now, especially if you're after
high resolution, high quality ***. For the high end user, there was an
IBM CRT monitor that I saw at PC Expo a couple years back that was something
like 25" with 4000+ x 4000+ resolution, but I was looking for it recently
and couldn't find it any longer. Projections, LCDs and plasmas aren't ready
for prime-time high end ***, IMO, so just enjoy what you have. My pick
for best monitor right now (even though it's a few years old) is the Sony
F520.
--
Charles C. Shyu
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~shyuc/shyu.html

by **Larr** » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:58:32

I just went from a 22" CRT to a 19" LCD (Hyundai L90D+). The conversion
cost me $359 and I'll never look back.

-Larry

P.S. Rumor has it LCD prices will increase due to a glass shortage. Yeah,
we've heard this before and it's probably Corning just wanting to get prices
up, but for what it's worth...

by **Larr** » Sun, 29 May 2005 12:58:32

Mitch,

I have a 50" DLP, the Samsung "Star Trek" (most DLP's are fixed 720p aka
1280X720) and I have ZERO issues with quality when using my home-built HTPC.

I don't believe a 1080i DLP exists. TI is working on the 1080p chipset
though. Might be out by now and I bet it's expensive.

-Larry

> This reopens the great Vsync on/off debate. Although 1080i *LOOKS* on
> paper to be a higher spec 720p due to it being non-interlaced (physically
> refreshes every line every scan) is actually better. Just as Vsync off
> will never give you 150fps if your monitor can only output a 60hz refresh
> rate (no matter what fraps tells you).

> You didnt mention what video card you run just that it badass ;) Does it
> do HD and what connections does it have DVI?

> If you insist on size over quality Id be looking for a 1080p DLP of a size
> that meets your needs and budget. The reality is even this isnt going to
> look very good compared to a Monitor though.

> Have you looked at that Dell 24" widescreen for the $700 range? It wont
> be much taller but it will be wider than your 21". Thats what Id do and
> wait another couple years for the TV standards to catch up.

> Mitch

>> It would be 480i at best via svideo. Even with component out it is not
>> going to be super high resolution like on a PC monitor.

>> 1080i = 1920x1080
>> 720p = 1280x720
>> Wide-screen 480p (DVD, EDTV) = 852x480
>> Regular TV Up to 480 lines

>>> What about TV output on many video cards? What's the resolution
>>> nowadays?

>>>> I'm looking to get rid of my 21inch CRT for a larger ***
>>> screen; 30
>>>> inch CRT would be awesome but manufacture idiots don't make such a
>>>> thing. I'm pretty clueless on pluses and minuses of the various
>>> formats
>>>> - projection, LCD or plasma.

>>>> My main purpose is for high end *** with high resolution (I
>>> always
>>>> have a badass vid card btw). I could care less about movies or TV.

>>>> I don't see LCD for PC larger than 24inch, and thats not enough of
>>> an
>>>> increase over my 21 inch CRT. Do I have to go to a LCD TV? Don't
>>> LCD TVs
>>>> suck for *** cause of limited resolutions and such?

>>>> Can some of you knowledgeable folk suggest some thing for larger
>>> than 21
>>>> inch screen ***? thanks

by **NightSky 42** » Tue, 10 May 2005 22:37:14

The trouble with larger screens is that the response time generally sucks.
However, it is worth pointing out that when you buy an LCD, you really are
getting the measurement that it says - a 24" is a 24" for example. I
wouldn't be surprised if the actual viewable area of your 21" CRT is
actually 19.8" or something similar.

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